return2ozmaThese 12 major companies caved to the far right and stopped DEI programs
corvettHow about we hire and promote people who are correct for the job, regardless of their gender or race?
As long as you’re on board with systemic racism, sure. DEI programs were created to address historic discrimination against minorities.
I would argue that if your goal is to fix systemic racism, a much more effective approach would be to target the pipeline problem early on by focusing on improving education systems in poor/racial minority communities. Their difficulties in competing later on in life stem directly (and I would argue most strenuously) from disadvantages they experience early on. If companies see improvements in the resumes of racial minorities, they will naturally be more likely to hire them; I would argue that their greed for having the best employees will override the racial biases of White CEOs and HR managers.
queermunist she/herBlack people with good education are still more likely to be shot by police or go to jail.
I never said addressing systemic racism was limited to addressing said issues in educational attainment alone. Clearly, it’s a multifaceted problem that requires a broad range of fixes.
if your goal is to fix systemic racism, a much more effective approach would be to target the pipeline problem
You really fucking implied it.
You can externalize your assumptions all you want; it doesn’t change the fact that interpersonal communication is the responsibility of all involved.
I.e., grow up and stop winging about minor details on internet forums.
You literally said that it’s “more effective” to give Black people better resumes than to stop systematic racism at the top.
Yes, but I was referring solely to DEI programs, which have nothing to do with systemic racism in police brutality or judicial prejudice areas.
Do you think these things aren’t connected? The racism that makes cops murder Black people is the same racism that makes it harder for Black people to get good jobs. It stems from the same problem and it sure as fuck isn’t their resumes.
That’s one factor, yes. Both is better.
Eh. Yes, if you’re looking at the data from efficacy studies alone. However, I would argue that DEI programs create political turmoil that creates harm to society that these studies don’t take into account. Addressing systemic racism is important, but DEI approaches have created understandable division about majority groups being discriminated against in the service of fixing the problem. I think focusing on wealth inequality has the overlapping effect of helping minority racial groups while sidestepping the race politics inherent to DEI programs that give fuel to racist groups in society.
The turmoil is manufactured. Nobody actually gives a shit except Fox News being livid about companies having the woke, and people who regurgitate it.
Fully agree in an ideal world.
But in practice, if men, for example, are the only people hired, they tend to be the only people who get experience, making them always the most qualified for the job.
Extra Facts: For jobs behind the camera, there are something like, only 13% of women employed in the film industry. Not all industries are equal so your through fits really well in some places and less so in others.
For jobs behind the camera, there are something like, only 13% of women employed in the film industry.
That doesn’t necessarily imply sexism at all, note. If it turns out women are just 6 times less likely than men to want to have these jobs, then this percentage would be 13% in a perfect non-sexist world. (Though 13% is concerningly low; the percentage of women that go into computer science is around 20-25% and that’s one of the strongest effects. Plausibly the remaining 1.5-2x difference here is due to sexism; I can buy filmmaking being one of the most sexist industries).
I can’t speak for the whole industry, but I’m a person who wanted to make movies and started out as a film major. When you walk into a room as a student and it’s all men, you want to quit because you feel like you aren’t supposed to be there.
As a developer now, I still feel this way, but I’m a grown up now and I just ignore that feeling.
I think women want to do these jobs but they feel like they aren’t allowed to, or are directly told they aren’t allowed to.
13% is the average of all behind the camera jobs. Composers, cinematographers, writers, directors. There are more women in writing positions and there are very few female composers.
Geena Davis Institute and Women in Film if it’s something you’d like to know about.
Oh also, Geena Davis Institute does a lot of great research on how men and boys are portrayed in film too. It’s not just about women’s problems.
Sorry, I remember one more thing (I used to give a talk about equality in media but it’s been awhile).
Before films needed financing and big budgets, women dominated the film industry and were pioneers. Women ran the silent film industry.
