Mariatta 🤦🏻♀️ 
My 2025 motto is: No Spreadsheet.
Build a proper infrastructure and database for your community.
I'm going to invoice you instead of filling in your google forms. 😤
My 2025 Motto v2:
You're all doing spreadsheets wrong.
You're all doing spreadsheets wrong.
My 2025 Motto v3: That shouldn't have been a Spreadsheet
Living up to my 2025 motto: No more spreadsheets!
I got to speak to @djangonaut yesterday about this very topic. Can't wait to share more publicly about what we're up to with #PyLadiesCon.
Stay tuned for the video recording.
AstraLuma@mariatta I definitely feel like we need an upgrade path from spreadsheets to Access-alike to a full web app.
Slab Bulkhead@astraluma @mariatta This isn't exactly that, but it's interesting.
Ben Berry
Chris Petrilli@mariatta fine, I'll invoice you in Powerpoint.
Glyph@mariatta @pathunstrom I am super curious about what your criteria are for “proper” infrastructure and databases! I tend to strongly agree with this sentiment but I often see folks pushing back on it by claiming that spreadsheet maintenance is an undervalued skill, that excel is “real programming”, etc, and while I am never quite convinced there I am constantly sympathetic to what those who argue those points are trying to do
@glyph @pathunstrom If you're just going to read the data, if you're the only one who need the data: yeah excel/spreadsheet is ok
Don't use spreadsheet if:
- you need to write email/communicate with all/some of the people who submitted the form (eg volunteer sign up/scheduling)
- you need to discuss the data submitted via form with your other team members (eg CFPs)
- you / your team members need to update various records in the spreadsheet at various times (eg club membership info)
Florian Schulze@mariatta @glyph from what I hear WebXDC could be good for that. Currently implemented by DeltaChat and other messengers, but might be available in browser soon https://webxdc.org/docs/get_started.html
@mariatta our chief architect had this view and while I generally agree with her, I’m not sure a Sharepoint contraption is an improvement.
Dean@mariatta My current home project is building a spreadsheet parser, with the goal of migrating spreadsheet data to a database, then automatically building a web-based front end for maintaining the data.
The OpenXML Office data specification is hard enough to deal with, but most of the spreadsheets I've come across are also horribly constructed, which makes the task even harder.
So far, I can parse data .xlsx format, print out simple data errors (divide by zero, etc) and bulk export to csv.