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vandys Jan 10, 2025

@atomicpoet @dansup

Yes, decentralization offers so many strengths. I've benefited from the Fediverse for many years now.

I just wish discovery was less problematic. The best I've managed is to keep accounts on various major instances--but never post. I log on and do hashtag searches to help me bootstrap the task of finding relevant people.

arcana Jan 10, 2025

@atomicpoet @dansup Why do we want slop content that damages people’s brains?

@arcana Maybe it's not our job to enforce how people choose to express ourselves.

@dansup

arcana Jan 10, 2025

@atomicpoet @dansup there’s a difference between enforcing against it, and actively promoting and developing it

@arcana @dansup Well, I hate to tell you this, but peer pressure is a form of enforcement.

People won’t stop making reels just because TikTok is banned and you don’t like it.

There needs to be a healthy alternative to TikTok, one which can be persistent in the face of geopolitical shifts, and the Fediverse can be that healthy alternative.

arcana Jan 10, 2025

@atomicpoet @dansup what makes it healthy though if it’s the same format that does negatively impact mental health

Resistor McResistanceFace Jan 10, 2025

@atomicpoet @dansup

"the internet used to route around censorship, so I bought it" - Elon the big fat degusting slug anus who wants to make real Soylent Green out of the homeless for his Mars Colony

@atomicpoet a tiktok clone that _can not_ be banned is my nightmare.

@tivasyk Is there any reason beyond being reactionary?

@atomicpoet reactionary? please explain?

@tivasyk It’s a pattern every generation has when they get older: they fear new forms of media.

50 years ago, it was rock n’ roll. 25 years ago, it was video games. Now it’s short form video on smartphones (a.k.a., “reels”).

At a certain point, people got to stop fearing change.

@atomicpoet yes, there are reasons beyond being reactionary to not want to see more of tiktok-like services, decentralized or not. the one i specifically have on my mind relates to anything that is addictive (in the broader meaning of the word) being made available to persons unable (for different reasons) to resist addictions.

one non-evident consequence of this is the way we (the audience) perceive truth; as baldur bjarnason has hinted in their «interim note 3»: «Video and truth comes from showmanship is the new norm with YouTube, Instagram, TikTok and other primarily visual media being the default for most people»:

https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/notes/2024/interim-3/

Interim note 3: text-based media in the age of showmanship

Web dev at the end of the world, from Hveragerði, Iceland

@tivasyk You know, all this can apply to rock music as well. I’ll write a separate thread about that.

@atomicpoet good point! yes, to some extent; although never before has rock music, or any other music been such an agressive replacing, supplanting form of passtime threatening whole generations.

i'm sorry you feel the need to build up your defences. it's not like i was actually _demanding_ to not build those loops? you think it's great, i think it's not, it's ok to disagree.

https://atomicpoet.org/notice/ApxDnCADbDQKcBOTgm

@tivasyk Here’s my thread on this:

Chris Trottier (@[email protected])

It’s funny when people say TikTok brain rot should be banned. I realize all these arguments also applied to rock music. Let’s go back in time for a bit. When rock music first emerged in the ’50s,...

maia // magmaus3 Jan 10, 2025

@[email protected] did loops actually start federating yet?

Marti Abernathy Jan 11, 2025

@atomicpoet @dansup is it decentralised, though? I signed up for loops long ago and have been testing it out over the last few days. I absolutely love it, but I don't think it's the answer to the TikTok ban YET. Can you run your own Loops instance? If not, you're running into the same issue as TikTok.

Marti Abernathy Jan 11, 2025

@atomicpoet Again, I love it. But I have SO MANY QUESTIONS. If I could run my own server, does it use P2P in the same way that PeerTube does, or are you dependent on your own server for all your users' bandwidth?