Sunshine (she/her)Is It Time for Europe to Ditch America?
๐ฝ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐Please donโt. We need all the help we can get.
MihiesYou mean you need tariffs and want to get rid of Greenland?
Maybe @sxan is speaking on behalf of America.
I certainly was!
Any EU citizens want to swap passports with me?
I mean Elizabeth May was shooting too low by offering that Canada take Washington, Oregon, and California. I was offended! Why not Minnesota?? We share a border and a Great Lake, and most of Canadaโs population already lives South of Minneapolis/St. Paul! Why werenโt we invited?
Your country is actively attacking our democracies and is threatening war over an European oversea territory.
We need all the help we can get.
Help with what? We cannot resist for you. That is something you have to do yourself outside of social media.
Yeah. I thought that after election, the insane clown president would screw Europe by stoping support for Ukraine and supporting the russian bear instead. I didnโt, in my darkest dreams expect him to actually threaten to attack his allies and let his dog fund the actual fascists in Europe, undermining the stability in the classic russian mixed warfare style.
Gotta help ourselves first. Why should they give aid for a fight we are unwilling to wage?
I donโt blame any country that doesnโt want to help us, weโve been screwing over other countries for a long time. We need to fix our shit here before we reenter the global stage. We need to start producing quality things and people again, we need to have a more humanitarian posture on the world strange. Unfortunately, very few currently aligned with the power structure here is on board with that, so they need to go as well.
Iโm pinning my hopes on Gen-Z. Boomers are dying, us Gen-X were too influenced my Boomers, Millenialsโฆ well, I really hope Gen-Z has their collective shit together by the time theyโre running things.
Truth be told, I donโt think we have time to wait for gen z to come of age. I donโt think we even have 10 years before shit gets hairy here.
I personally think itโs too late, but I get jumped on for being a โdoomer,โ so I try to stay outwardly optimistic.
But, yeah: weโre doomed.
I mean, I donโt think weโre all gonna die, but I do think life will radically change in a less than favorable direction, and some people may die at the hands of assholes.
Yes.
But first we need to deal with the traitors Orban and Fico.
Then we need to establish our own defence capabilities and reduce the dependencies on US companies for digital capabilities. (Get rid of Windows and US companies in the entire digital sector. Buy European, this will also Support our Economy.
Thirdly we should integrate closer with other countries also fucked over by Trump, like Canada
Thirdly we should integrate closer with other countries also fucked over by Trump, like Canada
Please do we need to support one another!
Please take us with you.
We can start small; let us into Eurovision. You let Austrailia in - well, theyโre basically antipodous to us, so give Canada a go too.
After that, letโs add some more spice. Maybe some trade agreements, or study-abroad programmes for exchange students. Then we can really turn up the heat, if you catch my drift.
Okay, we let you into Eurovision, you ship us poutine. This could definitely work.
Ooh, that would be nice! Kick out Israel while weโre at it.
I willโฆ Vote on you
Thirdly we should integrate closer with other countries also fucked over by Trump, like Canada
Remember, too, that Canada has a sea border with France and a land border with Denmark. Weโre basically the Netherlands. Letโs all be friends!
WahotsI donโt know if you wanna do that. PP is probably going to start eating Canada within the next election cycle, in October. Though the status of France (National Rally), Germany (AfD), Italy, Hungary, and the UK (Nigel Farage is up to shit) worries me a lot. Short term (20 years), I think we are going to see many of our friends and allies regressing until we either slowly beat them back, or have a giant world war.
We should all support each other, but also be clear-eyed that times of plenty and peace might be temporarily behind us because so many people are bored.
macnielOnly when you let go of Poutine.
But first we need to deal with the traitors Orban and Fico.
Yea, that would be great. Instead it is becoming a central European triangle of annoyance with the addition of Kickl.
Orbรกn is already happening, there is hope. He is steadily polling in the minority.
I believe it when I See it. He does play dirty
LemmchenIโd say the second step is to once and for all deal with the Russian thread. If Russia dies (metaphorically), the populists in the EU die with it.
They have Nukes. How do you want to โDeal with them once and for allโ ?
Just use conventional weaponry to flatten Moscow and st Petersburg. Russia is those two cities if they fall the country disintergrates with them. Either way when youโre dealing with the Russians, anything less than taking out your dick and beating them to death with it wonโt be respected.
They have an Automatic system which launches Nukes If you flatten Moscow. Just go full in on the occupied territories
Thatโs a very stupid idea
Iโm aware of dead hand. Itโs like the Sampson option in Israel. But Iโm pretty sure NATO has some form of icbm defence system. No guts no glory!
That requires Dead Hand to be in working order. But have you looked at the state of the Russian arsenal?
Are you willing to Test it?
poVoqWell, clickbait title obviously, but the EU will have little choice but to treat US based social media similar to how TikTok is viewed in the US, i.e. operated by a potentially hostile actor.
This is IMHO long overdue, but it comes with the inevitable splintering of public opinion space a bit similar to how there is little overlap with the Chinese or Russian one (but for those the main reason was language barrier).
MajorllamaI say go for it. Letโs see whoโs thinking about their ex more in a few years.
Jolly PlatypusYes.
The re-election of Trump proved they are no longer leaders of the free world. That mantle must be taken up by the EU now.
We thought it was already taken up by Germany, but then that regime changed a bit.
But yeah โ the EU itself is now the leadership.
Yeah. Russia is really targeting Germany since they were looking to take up the leadership role. Maybe France now?
geneva_convenienceLeaders of the free world
The most oppressive regime and the ex colonial super powers leading the โfree worldโ. Sure pal.
Who is the most oppressive regime?
Tankies live in vacuum chambers stronger than the ones their heroes put dissidents in.
Step foot outside of the colonial empire and you will find no echo chamber is stronger than the liberal one.
OmegaI live in Turkey so I think I am one step above that
The country with the big mouth which supplies oil to Israel?
The USA of course. Ask south America, Africa, the Middle East and south Asia. Look at the modern day Holocaust being committed by the US.
Donโt call me pal, buddy.
VaggumonAs an American who never voted for the felon, yes. Itโs time for America to die.
Not America, just the USA
SkilurosEU canโt even manage Orban, so why would one expect a viable approach to American fascist oligarchy?
Do it. We are not going to be salvageable.
Is it time to fuck off with YouTube โjOuRnALisMโ?
Not in particular. We need to be more self sufficient in general.
devfuuuWe can hope that someone will go there and deliver some freedom. Hopefully they have some oil around too.
Definitely. We donโt need the US, Russia or China. Find partners that arenโt autocratic shitholes.