Meta Now Lets Users Say Gay and Trans People Have 'Mental Illness'

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Meta Now Lets Users Say Gay and Trans People Have 'Mental Illness' - Lemmy.ca

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My mom believes the bullshit about LGBTQ being a mental illness. Can’t wait for it to get worse! Thanks Facebook!
I find homophobia to be a mental illness. I mean it’s right there in the name.
People are free to out themselves as ignorant on Meta. Technology is getting crazy.
What do you mean “now?” I’ve been seeing people say that for years.
Yup, and if you reported it as hate speech they’d review it and say it doesn’t go against community guidelines.

And then YOU get banned for “abusing the report feature”.

Reported a blatantly bigoted post saying that all gays should be burnt alive and I got a 30 day account suspension.

It’s just they’re updating their terms now that Trump is in power. Hate started to rise since the beginning of GenAI on the platform, I highly suspect due to the backlash from socially progressive people against it, and techbros didn’t appreciate that. They’re going mask off now after the elections.

Yeah the left wants things that actually hinder the oligarchs, the right wants to complain about them but will settle for people they don’t like being hurt. Tech companies understand that.

There’s also the fact that the bay area has spent quite a while having the sort of people who love to treat equal rights as a thought exercise

Zuck is one of humanity’s cancers
Maybe the next Luigi can fix the Z problem
might as well kill the tr*mp and the couch fucker
And maybe the M problems
What I want to know is who thought it was a good idea to give the kid who ate rocks at recess for attention an international platform. Hmm?

??? Zuck is extraordinarily intelligent. You don’t get into Harvard as a non legacy eating rocks.

Nor did anyone give it to him. He took it by cheating the partners that made Facebook grow in it’s early years.

You’re correct in the second half though. It doesn’t take brains to steal, see November 5 2024.

C’mon now. Don’t do that. Be better than that.

What we have to understand, and accept is that the election was not stolen. It exists in a broken system where only a handful of states actually have votes that matter. And this time, those states willingly voted for trump. Texas was never going to vote for any democrat. California was never going to vote for any republican.

The few states that mattered, namely PA, voted trump.

It sucks, but thats what happened. You can’t just call fraud because you don’t like the gerrymandering and the oppressed voting. Those are issues to address in the years BEFORE the election. Start addressing them now for 2028.

It doesn’t take brains to steal but you have to be a special kind of stupid to re elect Trump after his extraordinary failure of 2016-2020.
Ok…do you NOT see this country as a special kind of stupid?
I claim the US is stupid for re electing a known failure.
Oh. Yeah, no you nailed it then. I just misinterpreted your tone. I thought you were argueing.
Replying to posts is almost always a rebuttal so it’s a common problem.
He won the popular vote, you can’t blame that on gerrymandering.
Yeah you can. Lots of people chose not to vote because they knew their votes were too gerrymandered to matter.
A fairly large percentage of straight people definitely have mental illness. Likely the same ones that will be saying the same thing about gay/trans.
Okay 🤷‍♂️.
There is little to no repercussions for Meta.

The problem is that people are vulnerable to disinformation and now there is little to no pushback on these platforms.

In a world where people are expert critical thinkers with no biases and perfect rationality it wouldn’t matter, but that isn’t how people work in the slightest.

Who gets to decide what’s disinformation?

Once upon a time, scientific consensus classified homosexuality as a mental disorder.

This is why psychology is a soft science and not worthy of the authority afforded to hard sciences.

oooh. now do economics!!
The problem with economics is that people think that the best economy is one where the richest people make the most amount of money as quickly as possible.

Social sciences are important even if finding truth is messier and happens over a longer period.

In any case, misinformation is often not something that can argued as just a difference of opinion. There are obvious cases like outright lies about the occurrence of events such as “immigrants eating pets en masse” or “the bowling green massacre”, or that the “greenhouse warming effect” doesn’t exist.

Fact checking doesn’t have to be outright removal either, it just needs a critical analysis of the facts, and people can make up their own minds.

Social sciences are important, but treating their conclusions as absolute fact the same way we would hard sciences shouldn’t be encouraged.
No, no, no. Some people can say as they choose, some cannot. In any case, we’re all forced to listen to it and participate.
Who’s forcing you to read half baked reckons on FB?
Exactly my point. No one is forced to read bullshit on FB.

The problem is that people want to censor what they don’t want to see for others.

“If I don’t like it, then neither should you.”

On facebook and Twitter and others, we cannot say whatever we want. Truth is suppressed while disinformation is allowed. Saying LGBTQ+ people are mentally ill is allowed but mentioning even the word “cisgender” is suppressed. LGBTQ+ content will get removed for being “sexual content” but straight content that’s equivalent will be allowed. LGBTQ+ people face repeated harrassment on these platforms, sometimes to the level of terrorism; if they don’t feel safe posting about LGBTQ+ topics, they cannot say whatever they want. Hell, they get doxed but there’s rarely repercussions for the doxers.

Imagine if I spread lies about you, call you a pedophile, doxx you and then someone SWATs you; would you still feel like you can say anything?

Equality and fairness does not exist on these social platforms.

Zuckerberg has mental illness.
Zuckerberg has a moral defect. Evil is not a medical problem.
Well, evil is a medical problem for other people, like those with profitably denied insurance claims.
Billionaires have a mental illness
Billionaires have mental illness and have negatively affected me and society as a whole more than any gay or trans person ever could.
Immense wealth is not compatible with the moral life. It’s also not compatible with Christianity, but I don’t think any of them truly care about religion. The drive for greed should be a mental illness, especially when it’s at the cost of empathy.
“And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”
But what if the two penises touch? And they like it?
I feel comfortable decreeing conservatives are a mental illness.
More of a logic bomb

They put Dana White who heads the UFC on the board, all because Zuckerberg did Jujitsu… Jujitsu and the UFC has stange political affiliations to chechen forces Putin sometimes employs.

They’re a hyper masculine male traditionalist culture. So it all ties back into that BS.

As a MMA enjoyer, Dana White being put in charge of anything is fucking scary. He is an extremely evil and ruthless man. He is so open about treating fighters like complete shit saying “its better to keep them hungry because then they are more motivated to preform”.

Dana is at the forefront of Saudi sportswashing and pushing right wing culture on young men. He hooked trump up with Nelk and got Trump infront of massive influencers and their audiences.

Hearing Zuck speak longform a few years ago I actually thought he was left leaning and a reasonable guy. But that was bullshit, the guys morals are about as strong as a wet paper bag.

because Zuckerberg did Jujitsu

LMFAO that coordination failure of a leek I have to see that.

I can’t believe this exists. Watch carefully how Lex Fridman (yes that one) goes to great lengths to not kill Zuckerberg in training.

As to martial arts in general and assholery, I’ll just leave this here.

Mark Zuckerberg vs Lex Fridman in Jiu Jitsu

YouTube

I mean… We do sometimes. 🤷🏻‍♂️

For example I have ADHD, autism and BPD.

When people talk about “LGBTQ+ people have mental illness” they don’t mean any of that.

They mean “being LGBTQ+ is a mental illness, and these people first need to be attempted to be cured, if that fails then need to be removed from society”.

The problem here isn’t necessarily labeling being LGBTQ+ as a mental illness, the problem is the assumed solution. I’m not a psychologist or a psychiatrist, nor have I talked to one at length about gender or sexual orientation, but I do know that having an illness does not imply that the illness needs to be “fixed,” only the discomfort associated with the illness needs to be addressed. Sometimes “fixing” a problem is the best solution (e.g. a broken bone, depression, etc), and sometimes accepting a problem is the best solution (e.g. blindness, autism spectrum, etc).

You can only be cured of a mental disorder if you want to be cured. My understanding is that most LGBTQ+ don’t see their divergence as something to be cured, so whether we classify it that way is irrelevant, the best treatment here is social acceptance and maybe physical alteration (hormonal therapy, surgery, etc). That has been proven time and time again, and unless someone comes up with a better solution, it’s the prudent option to take.

So I don’t see being LGBTQ+ as a “problem” to be “solved,” rather I see intolerance of LGBTQ+ people as a problem to be solved. LGBTQ+ people don’t harm themselves or others by being the way they are, but intolerant people absolutely harm LGBTQ+ people by treating them the way they do.

Mental disorder would be more fitting.

“It’s not right that things can be said on TV or the floor of Congress, but not on our platforms,”

I somewhat respect that statement actually.

Elon Musk is gay!
Fuck off, no he’s not, we don’t want him either.
His whole thing is procreation. Not happiness, not love, not companionship, just spreading his seed into as many women as possible. He got this idea from his dad. For his dad, some of those women were his stepdaughters…so there’s still time for Elon to get even grosser.
As far as internet content goes, hate is winning. All the major social media platforms have been overrun by sexist, racist, LGBTQphobic commentary. And these platforms will simply follow the money, pushing hate content via algorithms as good people leave the platforms.

And these platforms will simply follow the money

This, remember that every single pride sponsorship and rainbow coloured logo was approved by a marketing department after extensive market research deeming it to be profitable