Scientists debate fleeing America because of Trump — or risk their research being censored

“They use fear to silence us”: Two scientists express different strategies for surviving anti-science agenda

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@rahmstorf Does not complying mean that you go away to stay honest or does it mean to stay and risk getting caught?

@ArneBab @rahmstorf

Researchers want to flee, consider other Americans how they could hide their fellow citizens of foreign origin for 4 years .... etc.
I know from my own history as a German person. Many rightly say that the Nazis should have been combated by the population at the time. Well, how should you currently proceed in the USA?

@werawelt The Nazis *were* combated by parts of the population at the time. People actually fought the SA in the streets (before the Nazis claimed power):
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung#Restrukturierungen_1925_bis_1930
@rahmstorf
Sturmabteilung – Wikipedia

@ArneBab
Yes, in Germany about100 Years ago it was the SA+SS. We will see what T. will do with militias how the Proudboys ...
https://www.fr.de/politik/proud-boys-drohen-mit-gewalt-nach-der-us-wahl-zr-93392106.html

I would prefer that the United States could return to democracy peacefully.

@rahmstorf

„Proud Boys“ drohen mit Gewalt nach der US-Wahl

Amtssitze von Harris und Biden und Trump-Party besonders bewacht. In Swing States beabsichtigen Rechtsextreme, vor den Wahllokalen zu protestieren.

@werawelt I’d much prefer that, too …

I fear that people around Trump may be organized and act quickly once he’s in power. And with the current massive information disbalance between state/large companies and regular people, I don’t see easy ways to organize against that.

Except if people in the current administration take steps to prevent that before they get replaced with loyalists by Project 2025.
@rahmstorf

@ArneBab
In any case, the call for resistance among the population is easier to say than it can be implemented.
Then as now.
It’s always the same script....
May we democrats learn from this.

@rahmstorf

@rahmstorf For reference: The Harper Government’s War on Science (Canada) https://www.policyalternatives.ca/news-research/the-harper-government-s-war-on-science/
The Harper Government’s War on Science - CCPA

Many scientific programs terminated, many scientists fired Canada’s Information Commissioner, Suzanne Legault, is investigating the muzzling of federal scientists, but far more troubling is the actual elimination of scientific programs and the firing of scientists. On that front, Canada’s federal environmental and oceans science and scientists have taken a terrible beating in the Harper government’s War

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