Leaders of 'Uncommitted' and 'Abandon Harris' movements reflect on Trump's victory and early moves

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Leaders of 'Uncommitted' and 'Abandon Harris' movements reflect on Trump's victory and early moves - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

Look I get it, the Dems didn’t do enough to win over their base and instead went to the center.

But these Dearborn folks in the article get what they deserve and should really shut the fuck up. They voted for a man who said their home country was a shit hole and enacted a travel ban against specifically Muslim countries.

You are a complete a total dumbass if you thought he was on your side. He has years and years of lying out of his ass and you believe him and it’s the Democrats fault? No I reject that. He literally stated in 2023 that he would extend his travel ban to Gaza. I feel like I need to take crazy pills or something, these people are insufferable.

They didn’t vote Trump, they just didn’t vote for your racist, sexist, corporate shitbag of a candidate. Sorry, you dont deserve the votes of minorities by promising to genocide them less than the other guy.

Actually yes they did vote trump, studies show that only 20% voted harris. The remainder was split between the green party and trump.

This is ignoring the fact that not voting in a swing state is pretty much the same thing as voting for the other person because the race is so close.

It didn’t help trump directly but it did help him win.

Despite breathless accusations by idiots, not voting does not equal a vote for the other side.
It absolutely does in a two party duopoly in a swing state. Stop trying to be right and look at the reality of the situation.

Nope. Hold on, let’s wait a minute and see… Still no.

It turns out that you have to earn your votes in a democracy. I know that seems weird but it’s true.

You’re using a strawman here. Man, why are logical fallacies so pervasive here? Never said you don’t need to earn votes. I said that not voting for a candidate in a two party duopoly in a swing state is the same as actually voting for candidate because the race is so close. You’re welcome to try again though.

No it’s a conspiracy, I asked time very nicely if I could use them as part of my joke.

And I am sorry if I went over your head but let me keep this simple. I don’t owe the Democratic party shit. If they aren’t worth voting for then people aren’t going to vote. And that’s nobody’s problem but the Democratic party. It’s not a vote for Trump, or Hitler, or the lizard people. Only a vote for them is a vote for them. And telling people they must vote for the Democrats or else they’re a dirty fascist is ridiculous. They’re going to laugh at you. And rightly so.

Sigh… You are just a magnet to strawman fallacies and cannot reject any opportunity to grandstand about your feelings. Answer my question or fuck off lol.

Your bad faith question about logical fallacies? Sure but first you have to tell me why you’re a troll? (Two people can play this game.)

And no, the only “slamming” here is that the Dems didn’t earn votes. It’s a simple truth. Which is why it takes bad faith questions and aggressive attitudes to cover up if you’re trying to convince people they’re required to vote against the other guy.