I forgot who originally said this but doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result is the definition of practicing
@marlies If you do what you always do, you will get what you’ve always gotten.
@marlies strongly disagree
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@marlies When I was taking music lessons, my teacher told me if I wasn’t making mistakes, it wasn’t practice because I wasn’t pushing myself. Practice should have mistakes that you are working to correct. If you’re making no or very few mistakes, you are rehearsing or performing.

The same logic applies to practicing other skills.

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@197winstonsmith yes, that’s what I was referencing but I very much disagree with it
@marlies I think the context is a bit different. Concerning insanity it is about doing things which you know or a spectator knows are never going to give a different result.

@marlies that's a neat turn on that saying. It relates well to a similar rephrasing - practice makes permanent.

Such that practicing with bad form, or improper approach, posture, attitude, etc can result in habits forming that actively hinder your progress!

@marlies practicing imply making mistake and learning from them

@marlies Disagree -- practice is doing the same thing over and over again, in an effort to get the *same* result when you actually need it

if your practice attempts also fail, then you need to change things between attempts

@marlies yep, makes sense :)
@marlies I’m quite sure I saw somebody on Poetry Tw*tter say this, long ago! Don’t remember exactly who. Probably not exactly the same source. But it’s such a nice, clean reconstruction of that clunky old platitude
@marlies As a musician, this struck a sour note.

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@marlies Doing largely the same thing over and over with targeted alterations toward IMPROVED results is the definition of practicing.
@marlies and working out.
@marlies This very much depends on what you mean by "same thing". If you shoot for the same goal, but try to do a little bit better each time, then its practice. If you don't actually change anything about how you do it and still expect different results, we are back at insanity.
@marlies Oh I actually looked this up a while back! The original was apparently "A fanatic is one who redoubles his effort when he has forgotten his aim" George Santayana (who also gave us the quote "those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it"). Its most famous user was Chuck Jones when talking about Coyote and Roadrunner in the early 80s. It was apparently at this time that it was corrupted into "The defiition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results" and misatributed to Einstein by popular newspapers and magazines.
@marlies one blogger tracked the current form down to pulp mystery novelist Rita Mae Brown, but she uses it as an oft-quoted phrase so I'd hesitated to say she coined it. http://www.news.hypercrit.net/2012/11/13/einstein-on-misattribution-i-probably-didnt-say-that/
Einstein probably didn’t say that famous quote about insanity

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@FrankHghTwr this is fascinating, thank you!

@marlies

Oh good. I am not going insane, then.

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@marlies it also fits a definition of building trust I think?