Ketan JoshiOpenAI doesn't report a single number for its climate impacts - not anywhere, in any way, shape or form.
It sounds kind of obvious but the fact that a company with such incredible electricity hunger isn't disclosing basic information about its energy consumption and associated emissions is v bad..
....and it kind of shows up the intense hypocrisy and shallow cynicism of companies that do deals with Open AI like Microsoft, who flout their sustainability credentials at every opportunity, but don't consider it a dealbreaker that OpenAI feels no need to share basic information about its impacts
"Each task consumed approximately 1,785 kWh of energy—about the same amount of electricity an average U.S. household uses in two months"
This is one per-task estimate from Salesforce's head of sustainability -->>
www.linkedin.com/posts/bgamaz...
The LinkedIn post does sort of make this clear but I definitely should have made it clear in my post too - the above calc isn't for typing a normal Q into ChatGPT but a particularly computationally intensive task
As you can guess: there is not a shred of energy info out there about a standard Q
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Conveniently not mentioned: the task was a computationally intensive AGI challenge task on a model that isn’t publicly available because of its own high costs. ie nothing like what any individual or business is doing with LLMs. [contains quote post or other embedded content]
This is a good explanation of what that test is
www.newscientist.com/article/2462...
OpenAI's o3 model aced a test ...
OpenAI's o3 model aced a test ...
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they should be required to install their own renewable power. Enough to cover their usage.
Although perhaps let them use landfill methane for a small percentage (cogeneration*). I realize that using landfill gas is not really green, however, this is still greener than just burning off the methane. Which is what most sites do. The other benefit of this is when you siphon it off for power, it makes the site less likely to blow up.
* When you use the bi product of one process to power another. It's used a lot in wastewater treatment. Gas from the digesters are used to run generators. In San Diego, one of the treatment plants has an outfall (where the treated wastewater exits the plant.) that is several hundred feet vertical fall. Inside the pipe (it's a big pipe) there are blades that rotate as the liquid drops, those blades create power. Along with other sources, on many days, more than enough to power the plant.
Waldo Jaquith@krusynth This is very silly. This is for a "task" that costs $3,400 and requires 2,267 GPU hours to complete. This a bit like saying that the emissions of 5 full tanks of gas go into a drive from Shockoe Bottom to The Fan, leaving out the trip is in an Abrams tank. It's not wrong, but it doesn't really give us any useful knowledge.