Public transport use soars in Montpellier a year after becoming free

https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/27307002

Public transport use soars in Montpellier a year after becoming free - tchncs

Lemmy

ItS Not FreE, YoU StIlL HaVe tO pAy fOR iT sOmeHOw.

Yeah no shit, that’s exactly what taxes are for. Providing services to the masses, not giving handouts to the richest.

I wonder who do they think that pays for car infrastructure (gas stations, roads, road patches, gas subsidies, etc.)

Gas Stations pay for themselves. Otherwise its also tax based.

Still completely free public transport is not a good idea instead of investing in a high quality offering. (Higher Frequencies, Better Vehicles, more dense network). Because People usually take the car because it is more convenient, its always more expensive than public transport.

And in the past, free offerings have just diminished people walking or taking the bicycle, but no shift Car>Public Transit

Oh, so there is one thing it doesn’t help with (do you have a source on that? In Europe plz) according to you, so it’s all bad.

Typical propagandist angle.

You mean Like in Tallin, Estonia?

news.err.ee/…/audit-report-free-county-public-tra…

Or with the 9€ Ticket in Germany?

diw.de/…/9-euro-ticket_hat_menschen_nicht_nachhal…

The Countries with a high Share of Public Transport in the Modal Split like Switzerland have one Thing in Common, an extremely dense, Frequent and reliable public Transport System. The price isn’t Just that important,

Just because someone has a different opinion than you, doesn’t make it “Propagandist”

Audit report: Free county public transport has not fulfilled goals

A report by the National Audit Office finds that free public transport in Estonia's countries has not reached its goal to reduce car journeys, organization differs by counties and costs have risen significantly.

Eesti Rahvusringhääling | ERR

Dude, in the first link straight away:

has not reached its goal to reduce car journeys,

That does not mean it didn’t reduce them.

You even sounds more like a propagandist with your :

Just because someone has a different opinion than you, doesn’t make it “Propagandist”.

Lol get your facts right, then we can discuss.

Then you say the tram in Montpellier isn’t good, like what on earth does that have to do with anything? And FYI I actually lived there for around 6 years, and yes the tram was slow and doesn’t work well when it rains, but that was the case before it became free . Your point?

You are just word-salading to hide that you are wrong lol.

That does not mean it didn’t reduce them.

Yes that’s explicitly what they meant. Most new passengers were people who were Walking or cycling before, but not a Lot of people who were driving before

Then you say the tram in Montpellier isn’t good, like what on earth does that have to do with anything?

That you should Invest the funds used for free Public Transport in improving the Network and it’s quality. You should still offer cheap/free Tickets to People who need them, but nothing wrong to collect additional funds to Finance the system

Most

Most. Not all or nothing. So your initial statement is still wrong.

Also, why pay it with ticket sales which costs more than raw taxes?