columbusAll of Telegram's Lies About Privacy
Nothing new here. E2E is only available in one on one chats and is disabled by default.
At least Telegram has an open-source client. Very few messaging platforms can say that, and fewer have a decent UX.
It’s not perfect, but it’s got the best combination of features and multi-platform availability by quite a bit. None of the other messaging apps support all of my devices except Matrix, and Matrix doesn’t have stickers
candyman337Signal
Yeah, the glaring problem of having to share your phone number is gone too:
…signal.org/…/6712070553754-Phone-Number-Privacy-…
…signal.org/…/6712070553754-Phone-Number-Privacy-…
They still tie it to your ID since you need the phone number.
And we just trust them not to share your social map to NSA which they totally don't do. Trust me bro
The NSA always has your social map from Apple, Google, Facebook/whatsapp, plus a hundred other sources you’ve given access to your contacts in the past decade.
Even if you’ve never used any of those, or given any app access to your contacts, 99% of your contacts have.
Data is about as good as it is current though and many people are reducing their exposure to these parasites
A person can now pretty easily go without logging into any of these apps with a few adjustments.
Hence why signal relationship maps will be even more valuable going forward. Hence my theory about signal...
I’m not getting you.
There’s correspondence, there’s metadata, and there’s phone-ID relationship.
Signal still protects #1 and #2 better than #3. And the way it works, infrastructure load is much bigger than for most other messaging platforms. So it makes total sense they limit registration somehow .
I’m not sure I remember by now what I’ve read about Signal protocol, but I think the fact of who messages whom they don’t have, so it’s not just trust.
~~Anyway, if you’ve read about 90s’ mixmaster servers for mail, while Signal developers don’t approve of alternative clients, there are libraries and it’s possible to make some kind of a mixmaster bot. ~~ I’ve left this, because it’s funny as a good illustration of why they don’t want alternative clients, among other things - because I’ve described a voluntary MITM.