Borders shift, bro. - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

Unpopular opinion but do folks honestly not understand how those borders shifted? Mostly because a bunch of countries tried to murder the Jews and yeah, Israel took part of their land in the counter offensives.

If Ukraine kept Kursk, I can’t imagine we’d really be complaining?

Basically, if you launch a surprise war I think you forfeit the right to be surprised or angry when your land gets taken.

Lemmy is anti Israel at best and absurdly anti semitic at worst. Palestine is schrodinger’s country. It exists at the 47 borders, despite the inhabitants at the time rejecting those borders and losing several wars about it.
lol at the people downvoting you. While other people in this thread argue that Israel should not exist. With the heavy implication certain people living in that territory should also stop existing.
Then you should work on your reading comprehension. Saying a state shouldn’t exist is different from saying certain people shouldn’t exist. This is not implied at all.

Based on my past conversations about this topic and the kind of people who say that.

“Israel should not exist” begs the following questions.

Who rules the area now? What form of government will be established? Which of the ethnic groups (that hate each other) are going to form that government? What happens to people deemed ‘colonizers’ and other minorities living there?

Who did you have such conversations with? People who hate Israel because they colonised Palestinian territory, or actual anti-semites? In the latter case, I can see how you would come to that conclusion, but in my experience, most people (at least on Lemmy) are part of the first group, who have no intention to kill everyone in Israel.

Regarding the questions, this is something both the Israeli and (more importantly) the Palestinian government(s) need to talk about to find the best solution for everyone involved. But they can all be answered without “Kill all the people living in Israel”.