spujbas a rule, if you feel the need to assume what someone else is saying? don’t!
A large portion of the world is experiencing political polarization. I see the same things happening on Lemmy happen on other social media websites.
The “if you don’t agree with me you must have the exact opposite opinion” approach to debate seems to be more a problem of the participants than the platform.
DiplomjodlerHow can you not like waffles! That’s outrageous! I’m so triggered right now!
That’s a waffleturd take if I’ve ever seen one
You’re just a shill for Big Pancake!
I read that Big Pancake wants to leave the French Toast Accords
wow can’t believe this guy wants me to kiss nazis on the lips /s
I said don’t kiss Nazi ass. That’s not the same thing.
hungryphrogPretty much every time I dare to say anything negative about Russia or China I’m swarmed with illiterate tankie lemmings who jump into the conclusion that criticising one empire automatically means supporting the other empire.
Great. Another corpo-fascist centrist who doesn’t understand the Overton Window.
Nat (she/they)tbf, that heuristic works ~80% of the time, which is way higher than I’d like, but that’s the effect of polarization
I like cameras to capture picture
So you don’t like artists?
I like to insult and block these people. My fear of course, with Lemmy being so small, is I will block everyone. Then again, that’s still better than dealing with illiterate, contrarian assholes
I feel the same way, then I look at my blocklist and it’s just lemmy.ml, anime subs, 3 people, some political terms, and a bot. I also have a .world account I use when I want to view the whole Lemmy experience anyways. Tbh I still feel kinda bad about blocking .ml, there was some cool peeps on there but I just can’t deal with all the tankie drama
pelespiritYou can block terms?
I use Voyager (mobile app), I have no idea if you can on desktop but I would assume so.
Thanks for the tip. I have Voyager, I didn’t realize you could use it like that.
Bruh, it’s so real. I made a comment that whenever I get messed up food at a restaurant, id rather just ask for a refund than ask for a replacement. Obviously there’s a lot of nuance in this comment, but I had people taking all kinds of meanings from it. One guy told me I was a complete asshole and some other stuff, just because I’d rather have a refund at the McDonald’s instead of asking the overworked, underpaid employees to remake my order as I sat in the drive-through, and so I wouldn’t have to pull over and wait even longer.
People just want to be pissed off and angry.
And some are just trolling, that sounds like you were trolled.
-“Russia should not invade a sovereign country, murder its citizens and deport their children.”
-“Umm, actually, the US were doing crimes in Syria and you should not support them.”
queermunist she/herBut by contrast
“We need to negotiate an end to the war on Ukraine.”
“Oh so you want to let Russia kill all Ukrainians?”
And then some people comment:
“Yes, we should allow Russia to cleanse the Ukraine. I’m being nuanced, I swear!”
We’re allowing endless war right now, which means fighting to the last Ukrainian. All the aid we give them is meant to keep the war going as long as possible, not to help Ukraine actually win.
One time I said AI porn was unethical (because it is) and people here thought I was calling for a ban on all porn. At no point did I say that porn was unethical as a rule, and if I did believe that I wouldn’t have mentioned AI at all.
It’d be nice if we could regulate porn in good faith. Every attempt to regulate it in the US has been an obvious attempt to shut it down, but it should be regulated like anything else. Sex toys, too. Lots of questionable substances are used in sex toys that probably shouldn’t be inserted into the human body.
Sex toys are not regulated in the us?! There are a ton of regulations in the EU unfortunately not the same in all countries but some even classify them as medical devices. There is also the standard ISO 3533 “Sex toys — Design and safety requirements for products in direct contact with genitalia, the anus, or both” which is not required at the moment? is still used as a guideline.
None beyond that ISO standard, which yes, is advisory. If it can be shown to be dangerously unsafe, it’s subject to a recall, but that’s only going to happen if the batteries tend to explode or something like that. There’s lots of unsafe types of plastic that get through.
compliancegate.com/sex-toys-regulations-united-st…
The United States Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) is an independent agency of the US government, overseeing the safety of consumer products. It develops and enforces safety standards in the United States. It also conducts research related to hazards and risks to the public caused by consumer products.
The CPSC has not yet developed a specific safety standard for sex toys. However, importers and manufacturers are required to report to the CPSC if their product could create a substantial risk of injury to the public, for example, because of a manufacturing defect or a design issue.
In practice, an unsafe sex toy is subject to a recall, regardless of whether it is covered by mandatory safety standards. Hence, importers or manufacturers of sex toys should ensure that their products are safe, for instance by complying with relevant voluntary safety standards.
Equally common, unfortunately, is people who don’t state their point, they just lay out the pieces and expect you to put it together, but then if you say something bad about it suddenly that’s “not what I said”. Schrodinger’s point.
I’ve developed a response to comments that do this saying-it-but-not-saying-it thing, and while I try to judge sincerity, there are false positives. An okay approach I’ve found is just to ask people to clarify: if they say something reasonable they’re genuine, and if they dodge the question they’re a troll or someone who doesn’t want to admit they believe something bad.
laughs in tumblr
PugJesusOn the other hand, a failure to make assumptions about what someone is saying leads to people being able either to willfully misrepresent their positions (“Oh, I don’t hate waffles, I just bring up how the world would be better without waffles in every conversation, no matter how tangential!”) or unintentionally fail to see the necessary implications of their statements (“I’m not saying waffles are better, I’m just saying pancakes are worse!”)
All language has some ambiguity, which necessitates assumption in communication.
Lord WiggleSo you’re saying Twitter is better?
/jk
Sure, it happens here, but I feel the toxicity on Lemmy is far less then on Reddit or other platforms, and with toxicity I mean including people assuming you’re saying something else because they are triggered somehow. But it’s very hard not to stumble upon people like that. Trolls rule the universe, they are everywhere.
SwedneckI also feel like posts like these are specifically part of the toxicity, encouraging it because “haha funy”