empireOfLove2Discord’s New Age Verification uses AI and Your Face!
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ImgonnatrythisThis is what it takes for you to finally leave discord?
I would guess most people that have managed to stick around discord this long won’t even mind this.
This is significantly worse than anything they’ve done
I don’t use the platform, why is Discord so terrible?
It’s the privacy
southsamuraiOh, the service itself is decent, up to great depending on your criteria. Pretty much never down, works well enough, etc.
It’s the privacy and bullshit behind the service that’s hated. Well, usually, some people hate the layout, and others hate the fact that it’s the default for so many people that it’s difficult to avoid.
ISOmorphAlso don’t forget the walled garden. Some niche topics only have information and support on discord, which isn’t accessible to anyone like the general internet
Yeah, discord is excellent for what it was made: sharing memes and voice chat. But somehow it completely replaced classic discussion boards and it sucks at that.
In addition to other comments, it’s a terrible replacement for forums. Information gets buried quickly, is hard to sort and search through, and conversations get scrambled.
it’s a venture capital-backed startup that has been very eager to exit its growth phase and enter its aggressive monetization phase so it can start making its shareholders some money. They’ve already tried a few things that didn’t work, like trying to turn it into a Steam competitor.
The service to date is mostly fine. If you’re like most people who don’t mind exchanging some privacy and control for access to an app that has a nonzero professional UX design budget, it’s pretty fantastic. But the writing has been on the wall for a long time that enshittification is near on the horizon. It’s not a question of if, but how soon.
I stopped using Discord way back when it always spun up my fans and made my phone hot just leaving it open.
What would be the alternative for discord?
jagged_circleMatrix or mumble
Unless i have been using matrix wrong, wouldnt it be more of an alternative to whatsapp than an alternative to discord?
I do not have a camera…so get fucked I guess. Ok discord…bye, you are easily replaced as a voice chat for videogames with friends.
They do technically still offer a “manual review”, which is what they do now, where you have to take a photo using any kind of camera with your photo ID and email it… which isn’t really better, and can be very, very slow in actually regaining access to an account.
Since when do they ask for age? I remember you didn’t even need a verified email
paraphrandI’m sure you won’t need this in your average server.
Are you joining dating servers full of teenagers and questionable activity?
“Questionable activity” is an easily abused term for power-tripping assholes. Especially with right-wing politics becoming so prevalent world-wide, it’s easy to imagine a scenario where a group of LGBTQ+ types are targeted for harassment - being forced to choose between losing their safe haven or outing themselves & putting themselves at risk of far worse.
I don’t join any servers. It’s a voice replacement for ventrilo, which I would consider using if I can get a music bot tos tresm music to everyone in the channel.
I don’t socalizetoutside of my group
Then you’ll probably never be affected by this.
Good to know
Like, your phone doesn’t? Or you choose not to also have discord on your phone? People can only reach you if you are sitting at your computer?
It’s a program I will only use on a computer when playing videogames. Discord isn’t a social thing for me, but a voice chat for my friends playing videogames.
Oh, interesting. That’s like the one feature I don’t really use it for. It’s weird how subtle differences in what you were around for can make such big differences in what stuff you use. Like literally everyone I know or knew my age is on Discord. It’s our primary social platform. I’m in like 30 servers and active in 10 of them. I’m in the discord for every game I actively play. And every game has one, I just assumed that was a common thing to do.
But seeing peoples comments about negativity and other stuff, I have never seen that on discord. So I guess it makes sense why I didn’t get pushed away from it. It’s all been incredibly positive and great gaming communities for hanging out in. I can help so many people, usually when I play a game, I get pretty into it. So I tend to know alot about it, and it’s nice to be able to help out people with questions about it. I don’t know where else people that aren’t in a games discord go to ask those questions, usually the discords are pretty huge.
MubelotixYou only need to verify your age if there is evidence on discord that you are too young to use the platform
“Evidence” being so vague and malleable a term that it’s insanely easy to abuse.
What they consider evidence is if you say you are 12. Explicitely. It’s not in their interest to ditch you out of the platform for no good reason
Methinks you have too much faith in those wielding the power to demand this. Examples abound of assholes - anyone from forum mods to police officers - abusing their power against those they look down upon.
I agree you could paint it as evil. To throw @[email protected] a bone -
One without faith in Discord might take a view like:
Oh, Discord cares about minors? That’s why they developed something that has like a 1% chance of doing its job and only kicking little kids off if they slip up and literally say their age? If they cared about kids and not growth metrics, their approach would actually have teeth. This is just feel-good, talking-point crap.
socsaUse Linux and emulated a Webcam device and feed it a video of Joe Biden.
Or just tell discord to fuck right off.
GormadtIf they ask for my face I’m done with Discord my friends and I will find a new place to chill
Enshittification guarantees a near 100% chance they’ll do it eventually, so you’re better off preemptively moving to an alternative sooner that later.
Evidently they chose not to implement this, as this video is over two years old.
ZoDoneRightNowAre people seriously not reading into this properly or even watching this before commenting? Don't get me wrong, I hate this too but this will not be used to ban people, it is only intended to be used to fast-track age based ban appeals. If you still want to go through the manual review process instead, you can. I still think it shouldn't exist but it isn't as bad as some are making it out to be
Discord already does worse stuff for privacy and this is tame in comparison
AlkLike what?
Of course nobody is actually watching the video.
If there was an article I’d read it, but I’m not investing any time into a bullshit video.
Do you guys think that maybe we could fool the AI with AI?
I’d like to try to verify an account using a This Person Does Not Exist generated image, but I don’t use Discord at all
Typically they test videos, not images. So your AI would have to at least animate it.
You can, a shitty deepfake will trick most verification systems, I’ve tested it in banks before
SabataA smiley face drawn in MS paint could probably manage.
Holy shit this can actually be a blessing because you can fake an ID as well. Just automate the entire process I am now John Doe and so are all of you.
I’ve tried with Facebook, but it never let’s me create an account
I can’t find any remotely authoritative sources saying this. Who is this YouTuber?
The curse of Lemmy - YouTubers desperate for clicks posting shitty vids that contain enough information for a 1 paragraph article
Articles are so much better than videos a lot of the time. I’ll watch a video for kinetic things, like how to flush my radiator etc.
Its annoying when information is in a video that could easily be written out and skimmed.
youtu.be/watch?=Brodysseus-SLAMS-spammy-tubers
NTTS is someone I’ve watched for a while who spends lots of time looking at and reporting on upcoming discord features, as well as scams and CSAM material on the platform. He’s very clear in the videos when something is rumored, added to the client as a beta feature, etc.
Does anybody have any suggestions for alternatives for chats?
I use it a lot for classes (students use them) and video games.
I used to use TeamSpeak. Very cross platform, as it should be. It still has great reviews although I haven’t dug that far into the privacy aspect yet
Mumble is an open source version of Teamspeak.
The fact that Teamspeak server is closed or restricted source means it’s going to enshittify eventually
huh…sounds like an invasion of privacy.
good thing I never used discord because of the toxicity and pedophiles.
nothing gained, nothing lost.
Discord has always been an invasion of privacy. They require a phone number for ages
nocturneThat is a server specific setting. I have never had to give a phone number unless the server required that level of authorization.
No, its site wide. I got banned before I joined a community.
Try signing up for a new account using Tor Browser
It is not. I just checked and my account doesn’t have a phone number associated.
You didn’t read what I wrote. They dont ask for a phone number from accounts that they can fingerprint
Sounds reasonable. If you look sketchy, like a bot, they’ll want some other way to prevent abuse.