They/Them - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

Ok, hear me out, super supportive, but I had an issue when a friend’s husband wanted me to use “their.”

Don’t use it then.

The only time you would ever need to use someone’s pronouns is when they’re not part of the conversation anyway.

I couldn’t care less what people refer to me as if I’m not there.

“I was with Dan the other day. They forgot their keys at home. They said they had to go back to get them.”

Literally not hard at all?

“I was with Dan (they/them) and Steve (he/him) the other day. They forgot a poster they needed and went back to the car to get it.”

If you’re with Dan (they/them) and Dan (he/him), you would also have the problem when saying

“I was with Dan and Dan the other day. Dan hadn’t brought the poster, so Dan went back to the car to get it.”

So to avoud confusion, people should not be allowed to be called Dan anymore. In fact everyone gets a UUID so there is no more confusion.

you would also have the problem when saying …

You would have a problem but it would not be the same problem as in my example. The problem is not because of the choice pronoun.

Well it kinda is. Names are like pronouns, in the sense that we use them to describe to whom we refer.

They are a non injective function on the name set.

The restriction you would like to make is that the function is not multivalued. But it is. As an example, Andrea is a name that is usually associated with a female person, but it is a normal name for male people in Italy.

Well it kinda is.

I disagree.

Pronouns are like names

Pronouns are not names.

I disagree.

I disagree.

Pronouns are not names.

Yes, that is why I wrote “like”. They serve the same functionality.

second

That is the first time you wrote second. That’s very telling.