617: An Incredibly Dangerous App
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Accidental Tech Podcast: 617: The Incredibly Dangerous App

Three nerds discussing tech, Apple, programming, and loosely related matters.

@marcoarment Do you see noticeable latency when moving the mouse cursor in Mac Virtual Display? If so this may very well due to wireless interference. Although Vision Pro does direct connection with the Mac, it uses local wifi to establish the connection. I can see notifiable latency until I connect both devices to channel 149 on my wifi router. Then the latency is gone, or not really perceptible.
@marcoarment I also can't help but think your issue with the sharpness of virtual display may have something to do with your prescription lenses. The sharpness of the text certainly is not on the level of a physical display, but it does not even approach to the level of blurriness that you described in the show. Of course, this also could be due to individual tolerance of sharpness.
The motion blurriness is the one I can also easily perceive. Luckily my brain adapts to it rather quickly, and it becomes not noticeable!

@feixie @marcoarment I don’t have any lenses and I agree with Marco on blurryness. What I really hate is how bad the peripheral vision is. If it’s in my field of view I expect to just glance and be able to read things. Notification comes in, I glance, it’s so blurry I can’t read. Want to check on the time. I glance to menu bar, too blurry to read.

This never happens on even an old 1080p monitor. Hard to justify getting used to that. Not enough value to the virtual display.

@kaplag This is indeed very awful if this were also my experience, and indeed there would be no justification. However, this is not my experience at all, and I do glancing at notifications and menu bar all the time, even with the ultra wide display. The foveate rendering works perfectly for me. It actually works perfectly in VisionOS 1.0

I am wondering if this is a calibration problem.

@feixie it’s not about foveated rendering for me. It’s that lenses are curved and at the edges of the lenses there’s sever distortion. I’ve wondered if it has anything to do with how deeply set my eyes are. Maybe if my eyes were closer to the lenses there’s warping along the edges would not be as pronounced. It’s hard fo me to understand how this distortion isn’t totally apparent to everyone. So maybe it is about my particular body. Either way it sucks.

@kaplag I see! Yes, I do not perceive any edge distortion on the Vision Pro. If it is there, it must be way less severe than other VR headsets I owned before.

It is totally understandable how the Vision Pro does not work for you. This is why I firmly believe that Apple putting out the Vision Pro at its current stage at such a small quantity is a good thing. Without it going to the field, there is really no way of getting such varied actual experiences from different people.