RmDebArc_5Russia tests cutting itself off from the rest of the internet
just_another_personTheir hacking teams will still be connected.
I meam, the rest of the world could cut them off.
Nah, those spies we have in Moscow needs a way to communicate.
This is fineš„š¶āš„Satellite phones?
Its easier to hide traffic when its using the internet, everyone uses the internet. The average person doesnāt have satellite phones, so if russian intelligence agencies are detecting a satellite phone signal, thats most likely a spy. Spies would risk blowing their cover.
would make it a lot easier to identify malicious traffic - all of it :)
No, letās not encourage this even as a joke.
All cutting Russia off from the rest of the internet will do is making them more radicalized and give even less opportunities for good ideas and good people to fight back.
Thatās why China does it. Thatās why Iran did it.
ProdigalFrogCountry Self-Defederation
KnowledgeableNipDefederation to go with their defenestration.
Theyāre really into cable cutting these days. Maybe we should help.
So we help russia become an IRL echochamber?
Imagine how fast the Russian IT grinds to a halt without SO
Lmao is russia gonna be even worse than China? At least China still somewhat have access to foreign website (emphasis on the āsomewhatā).
Is that right, you can just like call China, no Great Phone Firewall?
Yeah. My parents always to to my aunts and uncles in China. I mean you can say things like āXi Jingping is stupidā and nothing would happen, but if you say āSo lets kill Xi Jingpingā thatād gonna get you in trouble (at least, my relative in China would, Iād be safe in the US).
Basically, the reason is, China still need to conduct trades and bussiness with the world, so they allow some level of freedom to keep people happy, but wechat groups shitting on Xi is gonna mysteriously disband. (people arenāt gonna even gonna get arrested unless youāre the group creator) A one to one conversation isnāt gonna cause a protest unlike internet forums or group chats, that why (at least, why I think) they donāt care about phone calls.
People have a misconception that China is nazi Germany, or East Germany, but its not that bad. (I mean its not āgreatā but its not ānazi germanyā, you get what Iām saying?)
Are mentions of Winnie the Pooh still forbidden tho?
Maybe online.
I mean, its not really like illegal, its more of, every platform would censor comparisons of Xi Jingping and Winnie the Pooh. Just the Winnie the Pooh isnāt even censored, only comparisons to Xi Jingping are censored.
Just donāt bring a poster of the comparison of Xi and Pooh in public and itās probably fine. You can probably be safe making jokes with friends/family in private spaces, but donāt be criticizing the government in a restaurant, in case people overhear it, especially not the central government in Beijing or Xi Jingping.
SibboWhat has happened to the Uighurs in China?
I donāt know. My relatives in China are like far away from there, so there no information to obtain. Chinese search engines and news sources doesnāt show anything. Basically, information about Tibet and Xinjiang are almost nonexistent in China.
So the only thing I know are from western sources, so I have basically the same amount of information as you have.
I mean its just speculation, but I havenāt seen any evidence of skeletons or like a mass grave (honestly too depressed to do deeper research on this topic, so let me know if you have reputable sources), so my uneducated guess is some sort of mass detention center/prison on anyone suspected of being being a āseparatistā, so like US racial profiling against black people in pre- civil rights time period, but instead here its with China and Uigiurs (and other ethnic minorities).
I donāt think its a mass killing, just a mass āre-educationā (aka: brainwashing) prison. Hopefully my assumptions are correct, I mean its still terrible, but mass killings would break my heart way more than just āre-educcationā.
But this is all speculation since information is so limited.
So I have been in Xinjiang, specifically Urumqi in 2010, not too long after there were local tensions and riots a year ago (I didnāt know about the riots until after I returned home). It was summer and I saw police in full riot gear, in APCs in groups of 10-15 at a time patroling the city. Not roadblocks everywhere, but multiple such patrols. I still felt safe (as a westerner, its super safe).
So there were clear, heavy local tensions. Now you are right about the news we here are obviously one sided. You have to take some critical thoughts about what is likely happening. However inter province travel requires you to present passport when buying a ticket. Itās not really a sign of a free and fair society.
I donāt keep up with internal Chinese politics beyond vaguely being interested in HK, but seeing what happened there you can make a fair assumption that in the mainland things would be harder for folks who donāt fall in line.
Yeah. My parents always calls and talk to my aunts and uncles in China.
By all means keep doxing for likes, iām sure theyāll appreciate it. Good for them theyāre not targeted specifically (i assume).
Howās this doxxing? Theres are more than 5 million Chinese Americans just so you know, many of them has a relative in China. People talk to relative often, this is not some secret. I could be any one of 5 Million people, thatās hardly doxing. There are over 8 Million people in NYC, is it doxing for someone to say they are from NYC? When you talk about millions of people, the idea of ādoxxingā doesnāt even make sense.
Also, karma doesnāt exist on Lemmyā¦
People have a misconception that China is nazi Germany, or East Germany, but its not that bad. (I mean its not āgreatā but its not ānazi germanyā, you get what Iām saying?)
This was the tremendous stupidity of Nazi Germany - open violence and cruelty against dissidents (and, of course, Jews and other people deemed fine to murder). Ideologically motivated, but counterproductive. They had that vampire āblood for the blood godā aesthetic, if you look at Nazi-time crests, it can be seen very well too, sort of a Satanist state.
Actually every sane totalitarian regime in existence feels not great, but not Nazi Germany.
mannycalaveraAlso, arenāt telephones still working? Just call a friend/relative outside of the country to obtain information, or ask someone who has a friend/relative and ask for information on your behalf.
In Putin Russia friend calls you! And by friend I mean your neighbor, and by call you I mean call the police to arrest you because you have dared to ask for information. Straight to the gulag for you!
Thatās not how it works really. In Putinās Russia, just like in every similar regime in history, most people talking free-minded stuff or even protesting donāt get punished in any way. But some random ones do get jail sentences with the whole list of convictions. And those sentenced are sometimes not even very keen in their views, thatās what helps the effect. You know that anything you say on political subjects can be used against you, and it will be random and unjust, because a lot of people say the same and donāt get hit with the proverbial brick of Russian law enforcement. So as a result some people talk all they want and some people are afraid of political subjects being even touched upon in their presence.
The former group existing doesnāt really hurt the regime. The latter group existing helps it. And they talk very little to each other on political subjects, which is the most useful result - another category of separation.
The whole point of Putinās psychological strategy against Russians is in making a lot of categories of separation and reasons for apathy. It doesnāt rely on any beliefs being instilled or any active support being called upon. Just that nobody believes anything or does anything.
Thatās optimal for preserving power, and support is replaced with enormous strategic resources, but as we can see, those resources are not enough. Still, I think itāll be many years till that regime falls like Syrian one just did, and yes, just like in Syria, it may fall not to the most pleasant people.
The smart ones all know how to use VPNs as well. They know whatās up.
Crazy thing is they only need to control the masses who are mostly uneducated or donāt care enough to figure out whatās going on. Turns out that even the USA has a massive group of the latter type.
Turns out that even the USA has a massive group of the latter type.
What?! But 'Murica! Land of the Free!
No offense but this is incredibly short sighted and youāre assuming the average person seeks out new information. We really donāt and are more exposed to it in our daily lives of consumption.
In 5, 10, 15 years it will increasingly become a problem being cut off from the outside world. Even now many believe the propaganda
Itās not about restricting information. Itās not a problem in Russia really.
Itās about simplifying surveillance, so that in some civil war scenario the Internet connectivity were still there, but only the controlled and monitored kinds of it.
And also it is - it really is - about preserving connectivity if backbone cables going into Russia from abroad get severed or shut down.
I still think all this is about civil war scenarios. Russiaās history in the last 30 years is about its elite preserving itself at the expense of geopolitical power. They are just preparing for another stage.
To the people thinking this means Russia will no longer be able to interfere with other countries over the internet: you are probably mistaken. Disinformation teams will still be connected to the internet. All this will mean is Russians having even less exposure to the world outside of what little Vladolf wants them to see.
It will probably make the European CS2 servers less toxic though.
Less hacker in games?
BoxscapeLess hackers in games?
Half of the people in Jita 4-4 disappear overnight.
Is this an EVE reference? Itās been at least 10 years since Iāve last playedā¦ ah the memories.
Is this an EVE reference?
Yessuh. o/ I havenāt played in a while either, hah.
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_cryptagion [he/him]thereās never been a bigger hive of scum and villainy
How are we going to get more treasures like āBlending in with the Russiansā?
Itās not about what Russians can get from the outside, itās more about what they can get to the outside.
I think the idea is to have some capacity to temporarily preserve some connectivity, while mowing down protesters or something like that.
They are doing such exercises for like 10 years btw.
But when the war in Ukraine stops with some āmission accomplishedā ceasefire, there will likely be more violent signs of popular disagreement with Putin. Because, well, people with combat experience will come back. Some of them to ask for money on the streets, some of them to abuse their relatives and neighbors, and some of them to do crime, and some of them probably to stir shit up.
Isnāt this more a test of their own internal stability? Theyāve made it clear they would disrupt the rest of the worlds communications and if their own systems are self sustaining they would take no hits from their own antics
cs.rin.ru and rutracker ;_;
Also many people from the cracking scene y general.
On the one hand, oh no, not the fitgirl repacks!
On the other, I spent an hour last night failing to get my controller to work with her repack of Yakuza kiwami, so maybe itās for the bestā¦
x00zFitgirl currently lives in Latvia according to her website.
Oh, I just saw she links to cs.rin.ru last night while looking for solutions.
Also, wasnāt being serious anyway
1985MustangCobraI donāt get her method āI had access to a very powerful computerā what did that even mean?
I donāt know what you mean.
SkunkWorkzWouldnāt it collapse their economy? Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world?
Shh. Just smile and wave.
Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world?
I think those will move somewhere with Internet connectivity.
CauĆŖWow, you are really brainwashed if you think the macro-economy of a country depend on theseā¦
All that this person ever sees Russians do is be a digital sex worker. Surely that means it must represents most of their economy, right? What else can we believe but our eyes? The internet cables connecting the west and Russia must then be like the Nordstream projects, weāve been manouvred into a situation of terrible dependence on this Russian natural resource. How will we ever escape from it?
Why do you sound so scratched?
No lie. Russia is a petro state above all else.
Iām just joking dingus
You know, I somehow very highly doubt the Kremlin cares much about how sex workers might be affected.
JohnEdwaAre there even any payment processors they can use for that? I remember it being an issue when the sanctions hit.
I see a lot of comparisons to Chinaās great wall but iād wager North Korea is way ahead on thatā¦
BTW, Iāve seen an article that China is considering the relaxation of their great firewall.
Something about Chinese citizens being ideologically solid enough. I guess thatās one way to say that now with Palestine and everything else nobody really thinks that the Western world and the free world are synonyms.
ideologically solid enough
They have been manipulated into being some of the biggest racists on the planet.