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Does anyone else think the NYPD photos of the UHC CEO shooting suspect don’t match?

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Dec 6, 2024 at 8:48pmWeb
Show threadAliceDec 6, 2024
Honestly one looks like a very famous Podcaster and the other looks like a woman to me
Show threadOptionalDec 6, 2024
That reminds me they didn’t put this much effort into finding the woman who put the bombs at the RNC on Jan 5th.
Show threadMagnyusGDec 6, 2024
I was curious when I was hearing the police chatter saying the suspect was wearing a “cream-coloured” jacket, when in the assassination footage it’s pretty undeniably black or a dark colour at least.
Show threadcarl_dungeonDec 6, 2024
Two different colored backpacks too
Show threadRhynoplazDec 6, 2024
It’s not blue and black! It’s white and gold!!!
Show threadAbouBenAdhemDec 6, 2024
I heard he was wearing a white and gold blue and black coat.
Show threadTh3D3k0yDec 6, 2024
He probably spun around counterclockwise, but if you focus a lot it might have been the other direction
Show threadCaptainBlagbirdDec 7, 2024
But did you see the Gorilla?
Show threadjayboneDec 7, 2024
But we liked Harambe.
Show threadRagdoll XDec 6, 2024
I heard that he’s an ethereal being from another dimension that has already faded away from our plane of existence so the police is wasting its time looking for him and should close the case.
Show threadskulblakaDec 7, 2024
Guy? What guy? That was a pre-existing condition
Show threadxtr0nDec 6, 2024
The fabric looks different too. Like the shooter’s jacket seems to have a texture like gore-tex and the hostel guy’s jacket seems more like a cotton-poly weave. It’s hard to know for sure with the low quality images, but the colors look really different (and neither is anything close to cream)
Show threadBigPotatoDec 7, 2024
The pockets are alone to give away that Hostel guy is wearing a “field jacket” cotton blend while Agent 47 is wearing a ECWCS cold/wet weather top. He could have two jackets and all that but they’re different jackets.
Show threadNuXCOM_90PercentDec 6, 2024

Never underestimate how actively worthless “eyewitness” testimony is.

I was not aware of this detail. But if it were just bystanders telling stuff to cops before they got a hold of the footage, they are going to go with it. Especially since it is already pretty worthless to begin with (so many jackets are easily reversed).

Show threadDr_BoxDec 6, 2024
The assassin looks like he is wearing a black jacket and the other guy looks like he is wearing a cream colored dickies hooded jean jacket with the grey hood like you get from walmart
Show threadxtr0nDec 6, 2024
Agreed.
Show threadthesohoriotsDec 6, 2024
Steal his look at a reasonable price!
Show threadOptionalDec 6, 2024
But wait! There’s more!
Show threadultranautDec 6, 2024
If they are the same person they may have two jackets that are very similar but slightly different and two different backpacks. Someone on top of opsec or paranoid having lots of easily changeable looks would make sense. Although ideally you would want different colored jackets. It could also be that the camera quality isn’t good enough for the details in the jacket to show up and they only have two backpacks. It does really look like the two pictures on the right could be someone different with a similar jacket to the two pictures on the left though.
Show threadThistlewickDec 6, 2024
Worst opsec agent ever. “My change of clothes will be… essentially the same outfit, but with a black backpack”
Show threadLost_My_MindDec 6, 2024
Have you not watched Archer? You don’t know if he’ll wear his black tactileneck, or the slightly darker black tactileneck. It comes in both colors.
Show threadThistlewickDec 7, 2024
Archer was actually my first thought.
Show threadMushuChupacabraDec 6, 2024
These are all different people, and two of the images look fake.
Show threadspujbDec 6, 2024
it’s honestly laughable, im race blind but also they are obviously of entirely different ethnic origin IMHO
Show thread18-24-61-B-17-17-4Dec 6, 2024
What is race blind?
Show threadspujbDec 6, 2024
honestly clue i don’t even know what race is
Show threadLost_My_MindDec 6, 2024
Then what do you see if you watch Nascar? Or the Daytona 500? Do you think you’re just watching them bradcasting the craziest traffic report ever???
Show threadjayboneDec 7, 2024
It’s just an empty track for hours. So pretty much as boring as it already is.
Show threadLifeInMultipleChoiceDec 6, 2024
It’s when Vin Diesel and Paul Walker pull up to a red light next to each other, and no one see’s what happens next
Show threadPriorityMotifDec 6, 2024
The two on the right are the same guy, just look at the waffle looking thing on the right, it’s the same jacket, mask, etc. the left and the right are definitely not the same jacket or backpack. The left jacket doesn’t look like it has breast pockets at all.
Show threadoctopus_inkDec 6, 2024

Not only do I agree, but also it has been my feeling that the Starbucks footage and visit was a performance of some kind, and the water and phone they found were a distraction. Dude seems to have otherwise thought this through pretty well.

I admit that’s nothing more than a hunch though, and I can’t really defend it against anyone who disagrees.

Show threadlurch (he/him)Dec 6, 2024

I hope it’s not the whole gold/blue dress thing all over again.

However, I read in another post one might just be someone they want to question to get to the master assassin.

Show threadxtr0nDec 6, 2024
I saw a comment on another site where someone said the NYPD confirmed that the “ person of interest” is not the suspected shooter, but no one could produce a link confirming that assertion. The news anchors are all phrasing it like he’s the suspected shooter, which is fucked. Some ding dong in the PD’s gonna shoot a dude that they need for questioning (if they manage to find him when the whole city saw nothing)
Show threadDarkCloudDec 6, 2024

Feel free to upload more pictures claiming to be him that aren’t, post them to Reddit, send them to the news claiming to be from an official source.

Protect your folk heros America.

Show threadxtr0nDec 6, 2024
Regardless of whether the picture is correct, if you think you saw this man, no you didn’t.
Show threadIninewCrowDec 6, 2024
Show threadselokichtliDec 7, 2024
I’m sure I saw him here in Mexico just yesterday.
Show threadclassicDec 6, 2024

Feel free to upload more AI generated pictures claiming to be him that aren't, post them to....

ftfy

Show threadKrackalotDec 7, 2024
Seems like a great use case for grok or whatever stupid name Elon gave it.
Show threadedgemaster72Dec 7, 2024
NYPD: The six fingered man has struck again!
Show threaddual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️Dec 6, 2024

I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

I sure as fuck wouldn’t. I know enough not to come anywhere near the police if they’re scrutinizing me for any reason, even if I know 100% I’m innocent and I can prove it. You absolutely cannot trust them not to just arrest you and railroad you into a bullshit conviction anyway, or plant some evidence, or decide “he had a knife” and just outright kill you. You know how they say “anything you say can be used against you?” That’s because they absolutely won’t use it to help you, even if you’re not guilty of anything.

I am positive city hall is breathing down the NYPD’s neck real hard right now. The entire department has got a lot of egg on its face for not being able to stop this guy, not being able to positively identify this guy, hell, not even know with any certainty where he went afterwards. They are under immense pressure to hang somebody – anybody – over this because they’re looking even more like chumps than usual.

So no, a wise man would not expose himself to the cops in any way whatsoever.

Show threadxtr0nDec 6, 2024
Fair point. I suspect that the NYPD doesn’t really want to bring him in alive.
Show threadLost_My_MindDec 6, 2024
A dead suspect checks the boxes. Can’t dispute facts with evidence. Allows the media to say they got him. Gives them an easy victory.
Show threadtroybot [he/him]Dec 7, 2024
The CEOs get a false sense of security and are lured out of hiding. Then the real killer guns down another one. Rinse and repeat.
Show threadLost_My_MindDec 7, 2024

C’mon man! You should have ended with “Another one bites the dust”.

Then we could all have it playing in our head!

Show threadOutlierBlueDec 6, 2024
The cops need to present a suspect so they can say they did their job. Whether it’s the right suspect is another matter.
Show threadCaptainBlagbirdDec 7, 2024

Yep, if something like this can happen, it might not be the best idea to go to the police:

Man pressured to confess he killed his dad. His dad was alive and well[3:40]

Man pressured to confess he killed his dad. His dad was alive and well

YouTube
Show threadJessicaDec 7, 2024
Fuck I had to stop watching. That’s heartbreaking
Show threadSkeezixDec 7, 2024
Guess who’s going to pay that 900,000. YOU.
Show threadTheFunkyMonkDec 7, 2024
Everything went as expected. The officers were promoted.
Show threadApexHunterDec 7, 2024
They only care that the forms are filed. They don’t care if they are filed with correct information.
Show threadUnityDeviceDec 8, 2024
We did it, reddit NYPD!
Show threadIninewCrowDec 6, 2024

And if the cops do ask and want to pursue questioning you … you don’t talk to the cops in this situation and just ask for a lawyer … they ask what your name is - lawyer … what is your date of birth - lawyer … where are you from? lawyer … lawyer, lawyer, lawyer

Never talk to the cops, especially when the cops are desperately looking for suspect.

Show threadunmagicalDec 6, 2024
Don’t ask. Tell them to get you your lawyer.
Show threadLost_My_MindDec 6, 2024

What if you don’t have a lawyer? I know the state can set one up for you, but I also know those lawyers are overworked. They take on something like 12,000 cases per year, and get on average 4 minutes to prepare your case.

Could I just call my mom and be like “FIND A LAWYER RIGHT NOW PLEASE!”?

Show threadunmagicalDec 6, 2024

You can use your phone call for whomever, just know it’s not private and you best hope whomever you call will actually help you.

The distinction I was making is that the response to “can you get me a lawyer?” could just be the cops walking out of the room and coming back several hours later and seeing if you’ve changed your mind. The same thing for “I’ll wait till my lawyer is here.”

Show threadRagingNerdoholicDec 6, 2024
Isn’t your “phone call” a Hollywood trope? It’s not like you get to gamble on the highest stakes call of your life (oops, line’s busy or you misdialed or whatever) and it’s some legal gotcha the cops can pull on a suspect.
Show threadunmagicalDec 7, 2024
At least in Florida, according to this, you are entitled to complete at least one phone call.
What Are Your Phone Call Rights After an Arrest in Florida? - Fighter Law

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Show threadMutilationWaveDec 8, 2024
It’s too bad that cops are and COs think they are above the law. They WILL steal all your money, they MAY beat you up, and you MAY get a phone call if you behave like you’re their little bitch. They like that.
Show threadFindMEDec 7, 2024

I’ve been in enough jails to say with some certainty: it depends. Like unmagical posted, some places you will absolutely get a phone call at some point. In others, it’s pretty much an ‘executive privilege.’

The truth lies in the squishy, wet world of humanity, not the written word of the law. In one jail I know of, they’d give you three chances to make a free phone call (the other party has to accept, because they can’t let an abuser call the abusee without some warning of who it is), and if they weren’t busy, you would be able to keep trying for a couple of hours. Another place, you might get the phone call, but it could be 18+ hours after you were brought in and you had already seen the judge, been given a personal recognizance bond, and would be delaying your exit from said jail if you made the call. Jailers sometimes like to put the thumb screws to you in any way they can.

Most of the time, inmates will have access to a phone 24/7. Even in solitary, a phone was available. It looked like a pay phone strapped to a dolly that got wheeled right up to the door of the cell and the phone would stick through the little food slot you could look out of. Those phones require money on their account, and it works in a similar manner to the old collect calls. Those phone calls can be as expensive as a dollar a minute. A law was passed in the US around the end of Obama’s term or the beginning of Trump’s that was supposed to set a limit on how much those calls could cost, but I don’t remember what came of it.