Never forget? - SLRPNK

Lemmy

The ultimate cause was US “national interests,” which have only ever been the interests of the the oligarchs who run the country. They have always run the country. “National security” does not secure anyone’s safety; it secures the profits of imperialists. The Department of Homeland Security isn’t protecting us, it is cranking up the police state to protect the capitalist class from the working class revolting against grinding neoliberalism.

Proximate and ultimate causation - Wikipedia

The hijackers were motivated by slaughtering the infidel and entry into the afterlife, having spent far too much time in mosques. Bin Laden was motivated by an ideology borne of cultural hatred of the West and secularism.

I know I know, you’re from the LARP instance, so it’s tempting to believe US foreign policy is behind literally everything bad, but the world is just more complex than that ✈️✈️🏢

Oooh so close! You’re almost there. Just one more step.

Who put those extremists into power by overthrowing middle east democracies? Who funded them?

9/11 has nothing to do with the US overthrow of foreign governments. The US didn’t make bin Laden into what he became, bin Laden did. The guy was an egomaniac bedazzled by his own bullshit. The notion that the attacks were reeeaaally about oil access or regime change or economic disparity as opposed to bloodyminded ideological fervor is a tawdry lie.
My guy do you struggle wirh reading comprehensive, he asked who funded the terrorists and extremism groups that came to power. Wanna know how iran became anti west when historically its the most liberal and urbanised muslim majority nation period. “bin Laden did. The guy was an egomaniac bedazzled by his own bullshit” what bullshit would that be? You must think you’re so smart and know geo politics yet come here insulting others giving the most peewee American propaganda bs. So you’re conclusion “world is more complex than America doing all bad, but at same time Osama waa bloodyminded religious zealotry”

Latuff created his dopey comic because he knows his left-wing audiences want confirmation of their political biases. There’s nothing wrong with that. We all seek it on occasion. But what crimes the US is and is not guilty of has virtually no bearing on the fact that 19 muslim men literally took up box cutters against passenger airliners as a profession of their faith. The hijackers didn’t care about bin Laden’s politics, they saw an opportunity to kill infidels and they took it. They certainly care about Iran Contra or Mosadegh or fucking Halliburton profiteering, and they certainly didn’t become fundamentalists because of those things.

The wikipedia links are stunningly impertinent. The charts contexually lame. Muslim fundamentalism is the cause of the 9/11 attacks; no ackchually-tier insistence on proximate versus ultimate cause is necessary.

Again. You’re not showing off you’re capacity intelligence or critical thinking if you think 19 different men from various countries wirh a billionaire formerly cia asset Saudi billionaire leading them all for… Islam? I’m a former Muslim, so this is something I know alot of, but please dumb dumb, explain how they did it for “profession of their faith” Did the IRA bomb London because of their Catholic estremist ways too? My god, I could make a fake news site right now, populate it with bullshit, and of 8 billion people, i know you specifically would find my site and believe whatever crap people say online