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It’s a happy man

Yes, killing a man in cold blood by gunning him down in the street.

What a joyous occasion.

Depends on the man, I suppose

Not really.

Well, maybe Vladimir Putin, but he’s literally a war criminal.

So we agree there are candidates, we just need to negotiate on where the line is.
So we've established that there are some people you'd be happy to see gunned down, we're now just quibbling over who qualifies.

I wasn’t being serious. Someone like Putin should be in jail.

I don’t support the death penalty.

Indeed, having some disconnected powerful authority figure handing out decisions on who should live and who should die is a pretty repulsive concept.
Yeah, if anyone should be shot, it would be that kind of person of course.
Good for you, Bono. This fucker had it coming no matter how you slice it.

I applaud your moral high ground stance, but it’s worth saying there’s no court that can punish a man like that. They are above the law.

What’s your idealist’s heart say about what to do about people like that when the system that’s supposed to protect us from them is completely and utterly broken?

Disagree there. The world would benefit from a good number of people being unceremoniously air dropped over point nemo.

Tomato / toh-mah-toe.

They are both bad people who got to where they’re at by exploiting people in one way or the other.

Aside of their nationality, how would you consider them different?

Meh, I don’t feel bad if someone lynched hitler

There’s always unknown consequences.

I keep having to go back to the French Revolution- eventually they were executing hundreds of people per day. I’m sure all of them were guilty and deserved Capital Punishment.

Even Robespierre was executed, and the whole thing blamed on him, though he was adamantly against these executions.

We’ll never know what would’ve become of France if a different approach had been taken rather than just start lopping off heads.

France seems pretty chill today, actually. Relaxed people that aren’t afraid to unify and protest when they feel the government isn’t on their side.

The appeal of Le Pen to them is worrisome but humanity as a whole seems susceptible to right-wing populism, unfortunately.

Ah yes, the French Revolution …

THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror … A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.

  • Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court

Source: goodreads.com/…/989759-there-were-two-reigns-of-t…

A quote from A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court

THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood;...

Society is deteriorating this is what it looks like...

When CEO cheers at his pay check after denying claims of sick people WHO PAID FOR THIS SERVICE, do you ever find yourself saying:

Yes, killing a man in cold blood by gunning him down in the street.
What a joyous occasion.

Now think about it... why not?

It's not a good place for society to be, I quite agree. Yet here we are.

There are probably ways we could change things so that vigilantes gunning down health insurance CEOs isn't considered a reasonable option.

We would need a lot more philanthropic billionaires for that to happen.

Actually the more I think of those two words together the more it seems like an oxymoron.

If you gave a fuck about people you wouldn’t underpay them enough to earn a billion dollars off their labour.
It is for every person denied healthcare by UHC, and to a smaller extent anyone who’s ever dealt with an insurance company in general

Well, you see, the blood was warm when it was spilled. Unfortunately, because the customer was in the 3rd tier SuperSavings Freedom Unlimited* HSA Semi-Preferred SelectChoice Healthcare plan, all claims require a 24-hour waiting period after symptoms erupt to allow rebuttal from the primary physician. The blood was only cold after the grace period elapsed.

*Limited

Do I get a prize for leaving the 100th downvote on this clown?
To quote a recent tv season, there is no prize to perfection

tolerance should not be considered a virtue or moral principle, but rather an unspoken agreement within society to tolerate one another’s differences as long as no harm to others arises from same. In this formulation, one being intolerant is violating the contract, and therefore is no longer protected by it against the rest of society.

Source: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance#Prop…

Paradox of tolerance - Wikipedia

Murdered Insurance CEO Had Deployed an AI to Automatically Deny Benefits for Sick People

Before United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was murdered, a lawsuit filed against the firm revealed just how bad its claims-denying was.

Futurism

This comment needs to be higher and with more upvotes.

I’ve heard this rumor already but haven’t seen a source on it. Thank you

Is this what a saint looks like?
Ah, yes, pre-meditated murder is ok with you.
Most people are ok with this yes.
How many people have insurance executives sent to an early grave?
Ah, yes, zero consequences for building a business off the suffering and death of hundreds of thousands is OK with you.
Surely, surely there’s a middle ground right?

This reminds me of the JFK quote “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”

It doesn’t seem like a middle ground is possible because those at the top make justice impossible.

Also, other relevant quotes:

When a man is denied the right to live the life he believes in, he has no choice but to become an outlaw.
— Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom (1994).

If the oppressor uses violence, the oppressed have no alternative but to respond violently. In our case it was simply a legitimate form of self-defense.
— Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom (1994).

We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere.
— Elie Wiesel, Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech (1986)

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

No there is no middle ground because the wack jobs have moved their side so far from where it should be that ‘middle ground’ is still deep in their fantasy land.

People have had enough. This is just starting.

The middle ground is far behind us.
Political action is the middle ground. If the politicians weren’t all bought and paid for.
They keep moving the bar every time we find middle ground. What do you expect?
One dead is the middle ground
Life in prison? But seeing as the system is set up to reward not punish these monsters I’m not seeing a lot of options

We can’t afford to be neutral on a moving train.

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Sure, you find it. We’ve had plenty of the zero consequences, so we’re going to putter around in the deleting millionaires and billionaires for a while trying to find that middle ground.
It wasn’t murder, it was an assassination… Of a leader of a company that has delayed the care of millions for paper power. What is one life to many?
This man is an agent of justice. The murderer is dead.
Like pouring salt on a leech.
That's not fair to leeches. They're just trying to survive.
leeches also have a useful medical purpose, which is a pretty major distinction.
In this case I’m not upset. How many deaths, bankruptcies, and lives ruined are these ghouls responsible for? Save your outrage for them. Just because their crimes are less dramatic doesn’t make them less meaningful
His wife said on the news he “enjoyed life.” That claim, however, has been denied.
Why do you hate millions of Americans
Your right denying you fellow country men life saving medical treatment is pre-meditated murder.

Sometimes the only way to deal with a murderer is to murder the murderer.

In a better society this wouldn’t be the case, but in a society like ours this is the only way someone like a health insurance ceo will see justice for the horrors he inflicts on people.

Trolly problem. Pre-meditated murder is justified when it stops premeditated murders
Even less morally complicated, because you aren’t even killing an innocent person
In this case I’m ok with it