FBI (etc): You should use end-to-end encryption, because networks can be easily compromised by national adversaries.
Us: Right! Just like we've been saying all along forever!
FBI: Never heard that. Anyway, It's even worse than that! They can even compromise wiretapping systems!
Us: You mean just like we warned that they would when you mandated them?
FBI: Nope, never heard anything like that either.
@mattblaze I had a coworker who worked for a company implementing Carnivore decades ago. They had some really low paid Chinese contractors who helped them. The contractors seemed to have more money than you'd expect at their pay level. They also were never in the office during the occasional announced client meetings.
It amazes me how naive government officials sometimes are.
@lyda @mattblaze The Chinese probably recruit students at their universities, and offer them the chance to travel abroad, make money, and win a place in the Chinese power structure if they can successfully get access to something valuable.
I recall when the whole CALEA thing started, the EFF was warning that there was no way to secure it and it would get abused by bad actors.


"Thou shalt not have any man-in-the-middle other than Us"
1. Hypocrisy is advocating one thing while doing the opposite, which is not what the FBI is being criticized for here. They’re being criticized for being (very) late in advocating an important safeguard. See “closing the barn door…” etc.
2. The FBI is not an individual with feelings that must be protected. It’s a powerful, publicly funded institution subject to public scrutiny and criticism, at least for the time being.
they still promote LE / IC access to encrypted
data via “trusted” tech companies retaining everyone’s encryption keys & oppose E2EE encryption¹𝄒², so there’s a [ citation needed ] for your assertion that “we are about to see change for the better”
maybe we should expect organisations to demonstrate that they have genuinely changed their position / policy / actions over an extended period of time before we start handing out cookies
1 https://www.fbi.gov/about/mission/lawful-access
2 https://www.fbi.gov/about/mission/lawful-access/lawful-access-myths-vs-reality
FBI HQ based special agents might want to brush up on their own end-to-end encryption as they head out to their new field office work. Don't want the new management reading everything do we?
@mattblaze This is why the answer to anyone asking for a backdoor into your communications is "You first."
Then, all the reasons they say they can't do it are all the reasons you can't do it.
@mattblaze
Us: well at least you got there in the end.
FBI: we need to mandate backdoors to encrypted messaging services.
Us: 😒 so you learned nothing...