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brucethemooseIf they double up the VRAM with a 24GB clamshell card, this would be a great “self hosted LLM” machine.
3060, 3090 prices have been rising like crazy because Nvidia is vram gouging and AMD inexplicably refuses to compete. 16GB on the A770 is kinda meager, but 24GB is the point where you can fit the Qwen 2.5 models that are starting to perform like the big corporate API ones.
I always wondered who they were making those mid- and low-end cards with a ridiculous amount of VRAM for… It was you.
All this time I thought they were scam cards to fool people who believe that bigger number always = better.
Yeah, AMD and Intel should be running high VRAM SKUs for hobbyists. I doubt it’ll cost them that much to double the RAM, and they could mark them up a bit.
I’d buy the B580 if it had 24GB RAM, at 12GB, I’ll probably give it a pass because my 6650 XT is still fine.
Don’t you need nvidia cards to run ai stuff?
Nah, ollama works w/ AMD just fine, just need a model w/ enough VRAM.
I’m guessing someone would get Intel to work as well if they had enough VRAM.
Not at all
Like the 3060? And 4060 TI?
Its ostensibly because they’re “too powerful” for their vram to be cut in half (so 6GB on the 3060 and 8GB on the 4060 TI), but yes, more generally speaking these are sweetspot for vram heavy workstation/compute workloads. Local LLMs are just the most recent one.
Like the 3060? And 4060 TI?
Its ostensibly because they’re “too powerful” for their vram to be cut in half (so 6GB on the 3060 and 8GB on the 4060 TI), but yes, more generally speaking these are sweetspot for vram heavy workstation/compute workloads. Local LLMs are just the most recent one.
Nvidia cuts vram at the high end to protect their server/workstation cards, AMD does it… Just because?
More like back in the day when you would vendors slapping 1GB on a card like the Radeon 9500, when the 9800 came with 128MB.
Ah yeah those were the good old days when vendors were free to do that, before AMD/Nvidia restricted them. It wasn’t even that long ago, I remember some AMD 7970s being double VRAM.
Also “ridiculously” is relative lol.
The Llm/workstation crowd would buy a 48GB 4060 without even blinking, if that were possible. These workloads are basically completely vram constrained.