fossilesquevines of the animal kingdom
IamsqueegeeIs each a clone of the original with the same memories? Or are they their own “personalities”?
This piqued my curiosity so I dug into it a bit on Wikipedia. Most worms are dumb as fuck, roundworms are about as dumb as they come with total neuron counts for a roundworm being comparable to a microscopic tartigrade (300 vs 200). Most of this is located in the head of the worm in a brain like structure though, so I’m betting the clones develop their brains independently with no information transfer. I doubt there’s a ton of learning/memory forming going on at all though, based on how simple worms are, so it’s probably functionally identical. I would be surprised if most worm species exhibit any kind of learned behaviors ever.
Techbros will still claim that generative AI possesses less intelligence than the worms as an excuse to keep enslaving them.
BezierThe AI that tech bros sell is not alive and does not have “intelligence.”
Does it have more than a worm with only 300 neurons in its brain, or are you one of those crazy religious people who thinks meat is the only thing in the universe that can think because it’s magic or something?
Ai does not think. It predicts what word sounds right based on what we humans have written. It cannot make up thoughts or original concepts, synthesize info, etc. Being able to string sentences together based on probability is not necessarily intelligence or consciousness
So you’re saying it’s dumber than this worm? Wowzers, that’s a hardline stance.
It’s arguable whether the worm has intelligence of any kind, after all it wouldn’t even need it.Neither the worm or AI has any intelligence to compare because they don’t really think at all
No, they both have intelligence. Intelligence is the ability to process information. A pocket calculator has intelligence. A domino computer has intelligence. Settlers of Catan has intelligence - the rules contain an algorithm for determining who wins.
What you’re doing is deifying intelligence. You’re making it into a bigger thing than it is. You’re setting “Intelligence” apart from normal everyday information processing that even an abacus can do. The problem with that practice is that now you have no word to describe the ability to process information.
You do have a word to define that: the ability to process information. Defining intelligence in such a broad way makes the distinction practically meaningless. You cannot tell me with a straight face that you and I have the same intelligence as the phone in our pockets; there is a clear distinction between how we parse information and how a phone does.
I honestly don’t see what the main argument of all of this was anymore. If you were arguing that AI has intelligence and can think like us, and that we should treat it that way, then I guess we should emancipate every kind of predictive algorithm while we’re at it. Autocorrect has been oppressed for too long!
You cannot tell me with a straight face that you and I have the same intelligence as the phone in our pockets
Good thing drag didn’t say that. Drag said the phone in your pocket has intelligence. You added the part about it being the same intelligence as us. Don’t do that.
I guess you are right in that it is a phrase rather than one word. The point that I was trying to say is that oversimplifying what defines intelligence makes the distinction useless. There is a use in defining the difference between a phone computing numbers and our ability to think and I probably should’ve explained it like that
On an unrelated note, I keep seeing you refer to someone called drag. Is this you but in the 3rd person? Are there more than one dragon rider?
Drag uses person independent neopronouns. Drag’s pronoun is inflected and conjugated the same way in all grammatical persons.
And drag disagrees that there’s a singular distinction to be made between humans and worms. There’s a spectrum of difference. Every improvement is an incremental leap. We got here over a billion years of evolution. It didn’t happen all at once. Setting ourselves apart from the rest of nature disconnects us and damages our empathy. Human supremacy is the reason we eat meat. Drag is a vegan because drag values all intelligent lifeforms.
Also, did you know soy is capable of acting to defend itself? When aphids eat soy, it releases a chemical that smells delicious to ladybugs. The ladybugs come to check it out, and find a yummy aphid lunch. With the aphids eaten, the soy is safe. Nature is so cool. And you can call drag a hippie if you like.