chobeatCalls to boycott tech company Stripe after CEO posts about recent visit to Israel
Image caption: “Dem Khazar milkers man…”
mannycalaveraGood luck boycotting Stripe
I’m trying to find out a list of companies using stripe and I think it would be easier to list ones not using it… What I’m getting is basically any time I spend money online, and sometimes in person, they get a cut
Yeah pretty much. As a payment intermediary they’re actually really good. Top of class one could argue.
The executive’s politics aside, trying to boycott them means boycotting all their users. Good luck with that.
I have to pay a parking fine one through stripe. I would have happily boycott that.
Avid AmoebaLooks a bit insensitive but it’s not even expressing support for Israel’s war.
If Israel is a colonial project, any relationship fueling its economy is supporting the war. This includes touristic activities, investments, any kind of business.
The BDS movement worked against South Africa because it was totalizing and any chance to suffocate the Israeli colonial project must go through the same strategy.
Who is disagreeing with this? I want to hear your arguments.
I’d say the only “reasonable” objection would instead be on the pervasiveness of the conclusion. You can’t walk out your front door and remain consistent on that.
Right on, second time noticing you here today. You’re right again. When I replied the comment was at -2 and now it’s +9. I think several people have alt accounts for vote manipulation. Good thing votes don’t mean shit!
I use voyager which lets me toggle what I see (I actually switched to individual recently) and the comment I assume you’re talking about is at +19, -9 votes, and was about the kid who shot the home intruder
There are lots of down votes on both sides of that thread tho
(Also subtle voyager plug)
It was the comment about any economic support of Israel fueling the war from this very thread.
As in the one you replied to? That one is +9, -0
So people either changed votes or there was weird federation things going on
Interesting, thanks.
No problem
I assumed it was the other one because I was looking in their comment history for comments with downvotes
Nah they’ll cower in other subthreads
He expressed support by making an avoidable visit. Just like I would express support to the wife beater in my neighborhood by having lunch with him.
Cool I’ll boycott them by moving into a cave underground.
On one hand, screw this guy.
On the other hand, if I boycott Stripe I will need to boycott literally every single small business owner in the area, during the Christmas holiday season. These small businesses are what’s important in local economies, in putting food on the table for struggling businesses brave enough to going up against the Amazons and Walmarts of the world. These are the places you should be spending your money instead of giving Bezos another yacht.
I just glanced at this quickly, and saw Shopify Payments, which is actually run on Stripe
My sister in law was boycotting PayPal so she switched to Venmo.
Isn’t venmo owned by PayPal for the past 10y?
Yes that was what made it ironic.
katy ✨so basically he didnt actually do anything boycott worthy. he just had a bunch of perpetually online lefties and righties throwing a tantrum on twitter
BrewchinDunno why you’re getting down voted.
I visited Israel 10-odd years ago for with, and I loved it. Beautiful country and people… if you ignore all the politics. As with the US.
What I hated while there was the demonisation of everything Palestinian. It’s like a cult: if you don’t agree, you’re one of them. (Get fucked).
It’s the timing.
Israel is currently engaged in a genocide. Some guy talking about how much they love all the beautiful things about Germany in 1942 would get down voted to hell too.
PerogiBoiI have family in Israel and have been there several times. I liked it there. I liked how all the signs were trilingual and the food was excessively good. I don’t however approve of the Israeli government or how they’ve gone about this conflict.
I guess this makes me boycottable.
There is no conflict, only genocide.
Me paying my taxes has me certainly conflicted. Does that count?
Timing matters. I have family in Austria. I like a lot of things about Austria and I also don’t approve of a lot of things the government does and did.
If someone were to have voiced that sentiment loudly in 1942, they’d probably be an asshole.
So in other words, what I posted does make me an asshole to you.
People who have Russian family right now as Russia plans to wipe out Ukraine; are they assholes too?
Just putting it out there, you are not. Your deeds and intentions are what define you. And there is no race or nationality that makes you inherently bad or good.
Your post completely ignore my first and main sentence.
It’s the timing that makes you an asshole, not your sentiment.
Israel is currently engaging in genocide. I know it. The UN knows it. Dogs know it.
Good… good . Fight about another country. Split apart. The imperfect are unclean. Give no quarter.
The left will never unify and the right will win.
If any part of the left is OK with genocide the right is already winning and the only hope is to split with them.
No one is OK with genocide.
Reasonable people focus on banding together to accomplish goals. Do you think shaming someone for visiting family helps you stop the genocide? If every American stopped going to Israel, would that stop it? Please.
This is something the right gets correct every time. They hold their nose and tolerate some things they hate so they can make progress on their other goals. Then when those are done, they do it again and again. Eventually they have what they want.
They understand that real change is a long game.
It’s completely disingenuous to refer to it as just “visiting family.”
He was the one who decided to post a photo op in Tel Aviv. His previous posts make it clear that he knew he was doing so right next to an active genocide. According to the article, pro-Israelis interpreted it as an endorsement of Israeli policy.
Reasonable people still have boundaries. Reasonable people don’t “hold their nose” at genocide. Reasonable people stop believing in empty promises when every Israeli atrocity is rewarded with praise and unwavering support.
Ok. Then if you didn’t plan to partner with Democrats and liberals to change the situation from the inside, what do you plan to do?
In what way are the “Democrats and liberals” changing the situation from the inside?
Biden just approved another $680m arms package. That should be condemned, not celebrated. Acts that support this genocide should also be condemned, rather than celebrated.
They’re not. Of course.
They might be if we got in there, helped out, and then stirred the pot. But right now we’re outside shouting into the wind.
What would “in” consist of?
Democrats had both houses and the Oval Office in 2021. The Democrats were as “in” as they can reasonably expect to get unless we want to go back to 2011 when the Democrats had all that and a supermajority.
What was stopping him from doing something now? Who forced him to send more arms to Israel?
And how is the Democrats ability to do the right thing inhibited in any way by people complaining about a CEO supporting genocide?
These arguments sound a lot like when my 10 year old tells me that they’ll stop watching video games and do their homework as soon as I stop nagging them. That’s nonsense. They do their homework when I take the laptop away and tell them they can’t have it back until the homework is done.
Ahhhh, I found the mistake. You’re assuming when I say “we” I mean “Democrats”. No no no.
We, left leaning folk, need to join the Democratic party, and once WE are in, we change the Democrats to something useful.
Third parties can’t work. The Republicans are way too far off ideologically. So the only tool we have is Democrats. Let’s use them.
What would joining consist of?
Register as Democrats? Vote whoever they tell you to vote for?
Supporting is not joining.
Join them. Progressives need to run for local office as Dems. Join Dem committees. Canvas for them. Get to know them. Check out “Run For Something” to get involved.
If you want real change it involves leaving the house and talking to people and being present and available.
You can also vote in their primaries for progressives, if you prefer the less impactful “support” route. But then you’re just supporting the people who are doing the joining.
You can’t really complain if there are no progressive or left Dems to support if you as a progressive/left person aren’t joining either.
Couldn’t you say the same for the Republicans, or any party for that matter? ie, “Join them and if enough people like you join them they’ll change.”
Realistically, some new political operator isn’t going to get any relevant positions. And nobody with the relevant positions will listen to a new political operator.
That may work in theory but it’s basically saying to create a new Demcratic party from within.
Democrats are more closely aligned today. The work would be easier. But sure.
This is a consequence of the two party system. You could dismantle that, but I think dismantling would require running one of the parties.
Yeah,I had this discussion in other subs but let’s say that I was less successful
Boycotting them is basically impossible anyway.
ZeroOneSo you’d rather use the platform run by treacherous robbers called PayPal
explodicleWhy deposit your money with a central authority? The linked website points out that Taler adds instant confirmation to Bitcoin, but you can already get that using the Lightning Network - without custodial risk.
GNU-Taler is not a central authority though
Your wallet stores digital coins that are blindly signed by an exchange. The Taler Exchange keeps funds matching all unspent digital cash in a settlement account. (Source)
When you add dollars or bitcoins or whatever to Taler, you’re making a deposit.
