The Picard ManeuverBars vs Grocery Stores in the United States
InfynisWhen there’s nothing else to do, people drink. I went to college at the top of Michigan’s upper peninsula, and there was a running joke at my school, that there were only two ways out. You either drop out, or you graduate an alcoholic
SlopppyEngineerWhy not both? One guy at school had to drop out because his liver was so damaged because of drinking.
But there’s red dots at all the big cities. That’s the opposite of “nothing else to do.”
Captain AggravatedYou ever been in a big city in the South? They aren’t the densely packed walkable and/or public transportation heavy big towns like New York or Chicago. The old parts of town that were designed before cars now have narrow densely trafficked streets paved through them with inadequate parking and no real “park here and take public transport in,” nearly none of them have commuter rail, some might have bus services. The majority of the city is just heavy suburbs, miles upon miles of retail strip malls and tract housing.
Even when you compare places like Greensboro to places like Sanford, you start going "Well there’s more brewpubs…which are bars. There’s more restaurants…that serve alchohol. There’s a comedy club…that serves alcohol. Greensboro is Sanford if Sanford had a functioning mall and a minor league baseball team. If you live there, at 6 pm on a given Thursday you can stay home or you can go out to a bar and that’s about it.
You ever been in a big city in the South? They aren’t the densely packed walkable and/or public transportation heavy big towns like New York or Chicago. The old parts of town that were designed before cars now have narrow densely trafficked streets paved through them with inadequate parking and no real “park here and take public transport in,” nearly none of them have commuter rail, some might have bus services. The majority of the city is just heavy suburbs, miles upon miles of retail strip malls and tract housing.
– an Atlantan
Y’all too, huh?
solsangraalhow much of that big red blob in the middle is actually owned by the mafia
My wife worked with someone related to the owner of Al Capone’s favorite bar to lie low in when things got too hot in Chicago. She was told to namedrop her relative if she’s ever in Vegas and when she finally did she immediately got the ultra-VIP treatment
Interesting. A lot of the red spots in CO, at least, are places with not many people, so they only have one grocery store. If there are 2 bars, they’d meet the criteria. The center left spot looks like it’s where a lot of the ski towns are - small permanent populations (and getting smaller thanks to most of the housing stock being on airbnb), lots of tourists. Of course there would be more bars, and probably restaurants.
The giant red swaths are uh…a little more concerning.
I grew up in central Wisconsin, can confirm there are more bars than grocery stores lol
Lem JukesI think this is a bad map. No data, no sourcing, no analysis, nothing. It’s just clickbaity nonsense.
Those aren’t even counties it’s just cutting the country up into random squares
hey, if it works for voting
Yeah but it doesn’t so…
“Squares”.
They’re not even being subtle. What’s their excuse?
bleistift2It’s not always gerrymandering. See my response to @[email protected].
No. 3 is actually the opposite of gerrymandering. That “headphone district” connects two Latino communities
youtu.be/A-4dIImaodQ?t=833
Gerrymandering: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Maryland’s sixth used to be pretty hilarious too. They put an urban center connected to an Appalachian rural expanse with a little corridor to drown out the rural votes. It’s a little less nonsensical nowadays though.
LOL how is Maryland gerrymandered, isn’t it like 12 blocks?
It used to be gerrymandered to fuck. It was only recently rectified.
Don’t know why, but I was expecting a bar chart
It’s a chart about bars, hence a ‘bar chart.’
I didn’t need this
_/s 🫣
Blocking you for like 30 mins in case you have any more like that
This ratio would be trivial to represent as a gradient.
Virginia doesn’t have bars. They have restaurants that may have a bar in them. Even breweries with tap rooms have minimum food sales requirements.
That’s kinda sad.
It’s not a difficult bar (heh) to clear. Keep a stock of frozen pizzas on hand, have a cheap countertop pizza oven, bam, food requirement satisfied.
California has a similar law in that any establishment that serves booze also has to serve food to some degree
Yeah that’s how some get away with it lol. Our local American Legion Post just has hotdogs on a roller for a couple hours a day, plus peanuts in bowls on the bar. Really it also comes down to local enforcement.
You reminded me of a Pennsylvania grocery store that finally got a license to sell new types or quantities of alcohol. But a food sale was required with each purchase, so of course they had something like 50¢ macarons next to the register!
I live in a small town in Wisconsin. The bars happen to also be the best restaurants. Doesn’t make them not bars if they serve food
Flying SquidI would think most places would have more bars than grocery stores. Even a pretty big town usually only needs what, 5 or 6 grocery stores for a population of under 100,000? And they can be more distant. People like bars to be near them and they generally don’t have the capacity of a grocery store, so you need more of them. Overhead is much lower too, obviously.
Swedneck6 grocery stores for 100’000 people? here in sweden that’s not enough grocery stores for 50k!
with 100k people i’d expect at least 20 stores, if not more.
Unless you’re counting shit like Dollar General, not even close to that many in the U.S.
I don’t even know how they would survive with that low number of customers. Why would you even need 20?
That person is probably thinking of European size stores. I think grocery stores in the US might just be bigger on average than they are in Sweden? We have some big mega stores here compared to Europe.
yeah ours are oftentime closer to convenience stores, and distributed fairly evenly so people largely just go to the closest one. Stuff like walmart is terrifyingly big, that’s what i’d consider an entire mall.
in my experience, the grocery stores in sweden tend to be considerably smaller than the grocery stores in the united states. pretty much every grocery store in the US is larger than an ica maxi. there needs to be room for all 20 flavors of toothpaste and all 40 flavors of oreos.
You must mean grocery stores in ua sense.
This is for shops in a 75k city in my country. I guess there are far more that are not shown at this zoom.
I do, but then it’s a map of the U.S.
I thought we wanted walkable cities with grocery stores on every corner???
What we may want what what the reality is are two very different things.
That tracks
socsaExcessive according to who. Your dad's tampon company?
Between the lead pipes and alcohol, the upper Midwest seems to weed out the thinkers.
From a small town in Illinois, we once had the record for most bars per capita….in a town with less than 3000 people.
the fuck is going on in upstate new york? wisconsin checks out, but why is upstate NY an isolated hot spot? it’s not like they drink more than PA or VT
A lot of people from the city have second homes there, vacation spots. Maybe that can explain it?
I’m currently in Wisconsin and am greatly pleased with the bar offerings…my family is from Buffalo…I understand
M0oP0oThere are way too many of these US dots outside of the US for my liking.
Anything you wanna talk about Wisconsin?
Don’t worry, Wisconsin’s top lobbying organization by dollars spent will speak to you for the state populace
If you’re a drinker you know where the liquor store is. If you drink a lot you know what time it closes. If you drink too much you know what time it opens.
Hey alcohol warms yer innards mates
SpiceDealerWisconsin, are you okay?