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It really hurts that Matara was trying to get more VShojo group fanart, but accidentally triggered a landmine by organizing a contest with a prize pool.

The fan artists would have been more inspired by recognition, of their oshi showing their art on stream, maybe getting some signed merch or a congratulatory letter. Of having their art recognized by their community and shared a lot...

She had wanted 6 members in the same picture with a 1 month timeline, which is a lot to ask for honestly. She had to do a lot of damage control of increasing the prize pool and reducing the count to 4, but...

But to put it into perspective, Hololive's Oozora Subaru posted this on November 25th. 冬のもこもこ犬目で追ってしまう🐶 [tl: My eyes were drawn by dogs with fuzzy winter coats], and got this response:

戌神ころね: あ、ドモ( ^｡^ )照
FUWAMOCO: BAU BAUー！！🐾✨
白上フブキ: 🦊コン
大神ミオ: ワンッ🐺

Korone: Ah, Thanks ( ^｡^ ) embarassed
FUWAMOCO: BAU BAU-!! 🐾✨
Fubuki: 🦊 Kon [fox sound]
Mio: Woof 🐺

And within one day, an amazing fanart with 6 Holomems appeared just like that. It had great traction, reactions, and viewership.

What Matara wants is to foster a sense of group identity with VShojo, but money wasn't the right answer. Hololive has organized stuff like Holotober where the members show a calendar with themes for fanart for each day of October, no money is exchanged, yet everyone is happy. And fans just draw group art for random interactions like this within a day.

#Hololive #VShojo #FUWAMOCO #OozoraSubaru #InugamiKorone #OokamiMio #ShirakakiFubuki

Nov 27, 2024 at 12:22pmWeb
Show thread四Nov 27, 2024

@anianimalsmoe Money just fosters bad things to be honest. The majority of us could use more of it, and when it’s a fan situation like this (and not your normal evil corp that is just running a PR campaign to exploit us) more feelings will be hurt.

I can’t remember if someone has done it successfully with money. I think sending a price to the top 5 would be a lot smarter.

Then to get something specific commission it. Just like they normally do all the time.

Show threadAnime Animals アニメの動物Nov 27, 2024

@yon Yeah, one takeway from the Armcha1r Expert's 8 hour long VShojo analysis was that their 'Talent Freedom' gives the talents the freedom to do whatever they want, but without offering meaningful guidance.

The few streams that Matara did to 'clarify the situation' just made it worse, and to use a crude description from the analysis video, she ended up sounding like a abused and beaten wife. She caved under pressure.

Every talent essentially operates independently from each other and their 'managers' don't give proper pushback, analysis, or assistance. Ironmouse has done tons of these fanart contest things for herself and others, she could've helped. But it seems pretty obvious that Matara didn't ask, and nobody prompted her to.

The VShojo stamp rally really painfully shows how unlikely they are to collab, and the lack of stream interactions or interesting social media interactions is why there's no fanart of groups in the first place. There's no big 'relationship-chart' of VShojo members to draw inspiration from.

Show thread四Nov 27, 2024

@anianimalsmoe It’s kind of similar to Mythic Talent. Lots of freedoms (which I think is the way). But they generally seem better at hooking up the talent with support people.

In short I think VShojo has the heart in the right place but have been driven too much by passion. Gunrun seems like a great friend, but as you pretty much say, sometimes it’s not a friend that you need, but a professional.

Because apology (and angry at) videos backfires so easily. A cool statement and then moving on is the smart thing to do. Very few people can pull a Churchill level speech out of their bum after all. It’s a shame they weren’t recorded somehow:(

(There’s a re-recording done many years after the war of one of his speeches. The one that ends “we shall never surrender!” There’s no urgency left, but listening to it and you are going to want to go kill Nazis as soon as possible.

I think it’s down to preferences as well. I’d rather watch friends interact and there being less of a big group, than corporate mandated fun. If VShojo wants more collabs, I think they need to hire a coordinator because organizing it seems genuinely difficult.

Because I see some interact a lot more the others. Mochi, Henya, and Zen seem to be the core there. Basically you notice it who they organically bring up.

I know Mousey is talking a lot about getting a personal assistant. She is obviously overwhelmed and pushing herself too hard. Add the extreme illness (it’s worse than most seem to realize, and most know it’s bad) and her dad (reading between the lines it’s bad and not temporary). She seems the type that would offer help, but leaning on her just seems cruel.

VShojo defiantly should hire a few people (including a real licensed mental health professional with experience with celebrity) to act as the glue and support. I think it would be a big win win win.

I think too many of them spend too much time working. Burn out is real.

(That said it would be really interesting to see a “heat map” of VTuber interactions across the board. See who is connected to who. There’s so so many!)