The problem with a lot of ocean "exploitation" is that it's like mining a human for calcium. Yes, a human body contains ~1kg of calcium, and you could take it out, but it's already *doing* quite a lot of useful things, and the human has far more potential to help you if you leave the calcium alone.
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[Insert full metal alchemist meme]
@helenczerski (hands behind back, holding pair of needle nose pliers and a bottle of ether) the gold fillings are still valuable, right?
@helenczerski Exactly. Also, as opposed to your average land based money, sea mining is very widely spread. Most mines' surface footprint is 1 or 2 square kilometers. Mining the seabed, if it happens, will have a massive footprint, and therefor the environmental management of the activities could become an impossible task.
@helenczerski Does the Tech-bro/Corporation derive more direct, short term profit from mining or leaving the calcium? That will be the choice made 😠

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Don't give the kleptocrats ideas - they'll bring back bone mills for any human they don't consider helpful enough.

@helenczerski Everything we need is on dry land. I'm not factoring in greed.
@helenczerski That’s true of most extraction from ecosystems, I think. Lack of understanding of the function of ecosystems, and the benefits of those functions to humans, is a common phenomenon. Might also be true of non-ecological systems.

@janef0421 @helenczerski Part of it, I think, is because we can see a microcosm of the entire ecosystem and think that we understand it.

And then we discover stuff like this way later:

[ https://youtu.be/rtAIPn3V23U?si=8G_0sf1H8aZzkQV4 ].

And we tend to go "Huh; that was doing something?", and then lather, rinse, repeat, we'll probably do it again.

We Discovered a New Natural Cycle!

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@helenczerski I suspect most people don’t really appreciate how dilute ocean resources are, and how much collateral destruction their mining would involve.
Take your analogy, you can get the kg of calcium by destroying the surrounding 100kg of person.
For seabed deposits, what if you have to ruin 10,000 kg of seabed, 100,000 kg of seawater, and a million living things to get your kg of manganese?
@helenczerski "let us reach one of the most dangerous unexplored limits of humanity in order to inefficiently mine tiny ~400g chunks of nickle while ignoring easily accessible surface mines" - statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
@helenczerski Eventually the human body loses enough calcium so some stuff that makes life convenient (muscles, nerves, heart) no longer works. But before that the changes can be subtle.
@helenczerski have you heard about electrochemical ocean carbon capture and sequestration? I wonder if that would fit in this criteria. Because apparently it could be a really helpful way to reduce ocean acidification, retrieve carbon in the form of calcium carbonates, generate hydrogen as a byproduct, and overall allow for the ocean to capture more carbon from the atmosphere. I've seen this idea floating around for several years but somehow no country has yet seriously considered it.
@helenczerski Man my news feed is full of humans that’s prove you wrong.
@helenczerski But you could replace it with adamantium!