New member special!

ATP Movie Club: Kiki’s Delivery Service
https://atp.fm/atp-movie-club-kikis-delivery-service

In this special members-only episode, we watch and discuss "Kiki’s Delivery Service" (1989).

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Accidental Tech Podcast: ATP Movie Club: Kiki’s Delivery Service

Three nerds discussing tech, Apple, programming, and loosely related matters.

@atpfm Fun! Are we also getting a 10 minute long infomercial intro about this in the next regular episode of ATP? You know, like you did for the tier lists a few weeks ago…

@Fleeecy I know! Are you also going to be an asshole about every member's special? You know, like you were just now…

(There are ways to make this point without being shitty about it.)

@caseyliss It’s truly hard to make a point about a shitty infomercial without sounding shitty. Why should I react well and nicely about a 10 minute long infomercial that was forced on me? With comebacks throughout the episode?

Also, thanks for calling me an asshole the VERY FIRST time I mention any of your member specials. Real special.

@Fleeecy I wish I could tell you we had the wherewithal to plan the "infomercial", but none of it was premeditated. One of us (me?) happened to bring it up, and then it snowballed a bit. This is what happens when you speak extemporaneously. If it came across as sales-y, then I'm sorry. Genuinely wasn't the intention.

That said, well, you were being an asshole. I'm sorry if this was our first interaction. I'm not sorry for calling you out for being unnecessarily… uh… asshole-y.

@caseyliss I understand how this can happen, sure. But please consider how this sounds to people that chose not to be a member (read : the vast majority of your listeners) before publishing a regular episode. This made you guys look real bad, real fast and could have been avoided by simple edits.

Now for the real question : is calling strangers on the internet assholes smart? Especially if said strangers are listeners and folks you read ads to every week?

@Fleeecy Patronizing my show — by way of time and/or money — does not also give you the right to be a jerk.

To wit, is it _smart_ for me to call you out on your behavior? From a profit-only perspective, no. But from a human perspective, yes. You don't have the right to be a jerk to me, just because you want to.

@caseyliss I don’t think my original comment was inhuman, Casey. It wasn’t even all that nasty. I didn’t call you names, even (which you kinda did in return).

I would even say that I tried to make fun of the whole situation in a way. You clearly didn’t take it like that, sadly.

@Fleeecy For the record:

"Hey, folks. I found it kinda off-putting that you spoke so long about the last member's special in the following non-member's episode. Would it be possible to maybe try to keep it a little bit more brief this time? It really made me feel like a have-not, which stank. ☹️”

@caseyliss I didn’t feel like a have-not; I felt like I’ll never want to become a member instead, and started questioning if I should be listening to the podcast at all, actually. It made me realize how much time is actually spent trying to get listeners to pay for something, ANYTHING on ATP these days. Buy a membership! Buy a T-shirt! Subscribe to this! Pay for that!

It’s getting real old… Especially coming from people that complain about Apple doing basically exactly the same thing.