Bruce Lawson ✅ ♫ ♿ ✌️♂️✊Nov 9, 2024
“Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore." - AR Moxon
Show thread3bomcNov 9, 2024
@brucelawson
"Nobody cares about their motives anymore."
That is precisely why we will have to live it again and again.
Show threadSam T GerbNov 9, 2024

@3bomc @brucelawson

I think there is truth to both points. As Bruce points out, there should be no harbor for those complicit in an atrocity.

But if one fails to understand the motives of the masses that allowed it and helped proliferate, by conflating them with the few that initiated and actively committed atrocities, as 3bomc points out, we are bound to repeat it.

This difference in motives may be a critical consideration in the path to averting it next time.

Show threadslotrakNov 9, 2024
@gerb_sam @3bomc @brucelawson Welp, the USA has no plan to avert it: the deed is done, and the Nazis take power in January.
Show threadSam T GerbNov 9, 2024

@slotrak @3bomc @brucelawson

The election was the ideal place to avert a leader with aspirations to implement Unitary Executive Theory. However, citizens, legislators, and courts have not been rendered powerless in resisting efforts of any leader to gain autocratic power. Most Trump supporters deny that Is Trump's objectives. If undeniable signs emerge that they're wrong, I hope allegiance to party will not override allegiance to the constitution.

Show threadslotrakNov 10, 2024
@gerb_sam @3bomc @brucelawson Well, I hope that too, but nothing since 2015 makes me sanguine about the chances.
Show threadSam T Gerb

@slotrak

New to Mastadon, so not sure what causes a thread to split.
Below is relevant if you missed:

https://mastodon.social/@gerb_sam/113457232777748638

Nov 10, 2024 at 6:37amWeb
Show threadslotrakNov 11, 2024
@gerb_sam I agree with all of that. Nevertheless, his cult will not suddenly come to their senses. The evidence available now is unassailable, clear and direct proof of law breaking, but they simply deny it exists. He could,, as he foretold, shoot someone on 5th Avenue in NYC, and the MAGA world would not lose a single adherent.
Show threadSam T GerbNov 11, 2024

@slotrak

The cult may never change their mind. However, given the popular vote, I find it hard to believe all voting for him are really part of the "cult".

I think many simply disagreed with "identity politics" and are not informed about his stated intent and its implications, or who benefits.
Many also don't know meeting all his campaign promises is infeasible w/o sparking more inflation (or worse economically).

If term 2 is as bad as we think, we'll need those same people on our side.