RememberTheApollo_Elon Musk joined Trump call with Ukraine’s Zelensky after US election
atzanteolGod, I feel for Zelensky… Imagine fighting for your existence against Russia and having to talk to these morons for help.
Remember when we had a whole impeachment hearing against Trump for withholding aid to Ukraine so he could get a political hit piece on Biden? I’m wondering how long it will take before a quid pro quo scenario pops up again. Either in Ukraine or elsewhere. So ya, we’re all feeling for Zelensky in the next few years.
ikiddImpeaching him might be on the docket, if the Republicans really want Vance in the puppet seat. I think they’d rather manipulate him than whatever fucking impending shit-splosion Trump will become about 3 minutes in.
I think Vance might at least be convinced to do logical things. We know that isn’t happening with Donny.
I think Vance might at least be convinced to do logical things.
He’s more likely to competently implement project 2025. Or at least more competently than Trump.
And that’s not a good thing for anyone.
I go back and forth on which is more dangerous.
trump is pathologically incapable of not backstabbing everyone around him and people telling him what to do is going to accelerate that. So we might get lucky and go back to the largely ineffectual screaming of the last round rather than focused efforts.
But vance actually has ambitions and might want to be his own person. And vance is REAL stupid.
I think we are horribly fucked either way but I think I am still leaning toward trump surviving until late 2028.
CorkyskogI firmly believe that Trump will be removed before his term is done. One because Republicans kind of need someone after Trump. But the bigger reason is he is such a narcissist that he is almost certain to step on a few billionaires toes. I think if he accidentally fucks with big money with some short sighted policy he will be swiftly removed.
Removed by who?
trump controls the military. And as much people think the evil space lizards control the universe, that really isn’t the way. And there is zero cahnce that the secret service or even the CIA are going to allow trump to put two in the back of his head and then commit suicide by hanging himself off the roof of the white house.
Vance and or the apparatus enabling Trump.
Elon can’t take his place… but him, and a few other billionaires can easily put enough pressure for him to be replaced if/when he betrays one of them. Probably because something they were involved with goes bad and he tries to throw them under the bus.
InternetCitizen2What a dilema for Ukraine! I feel their abandonment will be a microcosm for our leaving to the wolves.
I think a lot of Americans don’t understand that the USA hedgemony isn’t a divine right, it was a deliberate construction with tacit agreement of convenience from the western world.
Much like an economy, belief makes it so.
Much like the UK’s arrogance has driven them into geopolitical obscurity, so will the USA’s.
In 15 years, Americans are going to wake up and realize that their voices are irrelevant in the world. I don’t know how y’all are going to handle it.
I’m going to be bummed, but it’ll be deserved. Maybe future generations will stop being entitled assholes. Idk. Don’t want to live in a disintegrating country. Really don’t want my kids to. But I guess we don’t always get to pick.
Sterile_TechniqueMaybe future generations will stop being entitled assholes.
Look what’s happening with Gen Z right now. They showed a lot of promise, then showed up to vote and turns out they have just as many nazis as the rest of us. We’re going ride this death spiral all the way to extinction.
The Picard ManeuverDo y’all think Elon’s looking to run for office one day? Or does he just find it exciting to be included?
tateHe can’t be president, and I don’t see him interested in any other position.
Until trump, supermajority in Congress, and a hand picked supreme court say so
It’s in the constitution. It’ll take a lot more than that.
Yep. Look up the standards of a constitutional amendment. (Spoiler alert: having a supermajority is a good start)
the constitution
…yeah that’s a couple months away from being slathered in Trump’s feces and filed securely into one of the whitehouse’s toilets.
the constitution ain’t worth shit.
The Constitution can be changed; it has been 27 times already, so I don’t see why everyone seems to think it’s set in stone.
it takes but one order from putin and suddenly he’s eligible.
He’s not eligible, born in south africa
lol, doesn’t matter.
Funny how this reflects exactly my train of thought.
Oh god, what if that asshat runs for president next?
Oh, wait, isn’t he from Africa or something?
pew
Wait, doesn’t his buddy run the country, his party and the supreme court?
*panic intensifies*
“Look honey, the clown show already started.”
Sunshine (she/her)Zelensky deserves better than these hosers
Maybe Germany France Italy Spain Sweden Finland Poland … and the UK could step up?
I mean let me dream a little.
Musk’s whole “slash government spending” schtick is such a farce. Tesla wouldn’t have domestic manufacturing facilities without a DOE loan. SpaceX survives off of government contracts.
Avid AmoebaSlash Social Security, add EV subsidies, make them so that only Tesla qualifies in practice.
Chaotic EntropySo Trump and Vance are outsourcing their jobs to Musk…?