MicroWaveNov 8, 2024

Self-described Nazi becomes first person jailed in Australia for performing outlawed salute

https://lemmy.world/post/21780460

Self-described Nazi becomes first person jailed in Australia for performing outlawed salute - Lemmy.World

Summary Jacob Hersant, a self-described Nazi, was sentenced to one month in prison, becoming the first person in Australia jailed for performing an outlawed Nazi salute. Convicted in Victoria for making the salute outside a courthouse in October, Hersant’s act followed new legislation banning the gesture. Magistrate Brett Sonnet justified the sentence, citing Hersant’s intent to promote Nazi ideology publicly. Hersant’s lawyer argued that his actions were nonviolent and claimed they were protected as political expression, stating plans to appeal the ruling on constitutional grounds.

Show threadshortwavesurferNov 8, 2024
I don’t like Nazis for sure, but I also don’t like people being jailed for expressing their views and speech. So my thought would be to get like two or three hundred protesters together and all go to that courthouse and make that salute and make them arrest every one of them. If the court system wants to waste their own time and tons of taxpayer money, prosecuting people for free speech, then let them do so. Kind of like Iran using $2,000 drones to cost Israel $2 million missiles.
Show threadbarsoapNov 8, 2024
Fascism is not an opinion, it’s a crime.
Show threadshortwavesurfer
Who decides what is and is not a crime? Does a crime need a victim? It does the victim have to be physically harmed in a crime for it to be considered a crime.
Nov 8, 2024 at 6:13pmWeb
Show threadbarsoapNov 8, 2024

Go ahead, go outside onto the streets, and proclaim “I want lots of people murdered. The more we murder, the better. We really should get started now, what are you waiting for” and see where that’s going to end, even in places like the US. Then realise that showing the Nazi salute expresses that exact same thing.

There’s no such thing as non-criminal fascism. Thus advocating for it is advocating for, condoning, approving etc. of crimes which is a crime literally everywhere, rightfully so.