The concern here is that old search engines can give you links and you can go into them to verify the content. AI taking over our search engines hides the sources of information, forcing us to blindly trust the AI and wherever it got its information from.

#AI

@ned

We computer people have been warning about lack of transparency in devices, software and services for as long as I can remember.

@angelastella @ned It's not just about AI. The trend here is to put QR codes everywhere now. To subscribe to any event. To get the menu at a restaurant and most importantly to pay the bill without the waiter coming over.
How easy it is to put a sticker replacing that QR code?

@s1m0n4 @angelastella @ned

It's happened with EV charging poles. And then people not looking and just going ahead and doing payments on that fraudulent site.

@jan @s1m0n4 @angelastella @ned Saw your post too late and posted something simular, apologies.

@jan
What I don't get with QR code scams on EV chargers. These things usually have displays, don't they? Why there is a sticker?

@s1m0n4 @angelastella @ned

@flxtr @jan @s1m0n4 @angelastella @ned the amp chargers at work just have a sticker that the app looks at, so it at least has to be on their network.
@zoetek @flxtr @jan @s1m0n4 @angelastella As an ad designer I always struggled with how management wanted to hide URLs in QR codes. My practice was to present the URL with the option to scan a code if that made things quicker for you. ie. "Visit this website or scan the code below." Management always stepped in and made me strip the URL. I was a Blackberry user so I knew QR codes a decade before any of these Apple/Android types had ever heard of it, so I didn't just assume that everyone used it.

@zoetek @flxtr @jan @s1m0n4 @angelastella

This practice also leads to rampant use of junk domains and tracking strings. In my day you registered proper domains and created simple, readable URLs. Now they hide URLs under QR codes and append long strings to every link. This helps to confuse URLs and further obfuscate users from being able to look at a link/URL and quickly ascertain its legitimacy. They have created a scammer/phisher's paradise, at the behest of upper-management and corporations.

@ned @zoetek @flxtr @jan @angelastella another concerning aspect imho is that some non-techy people aren't comfortable with links anymore.
Clicking on a link is not something trivial anymore. They feel more reassured with a QR code, which is complete nonsense to me.

@s1m0n4 @ned @zoetek @flxtr @jan

We must educate them again about how human-readable identifiers add to security. Oh well.

@s1m0n4
I think typing in an URL is challenging for non-techy people these days. Maybe because modern mobile browsers hide parts of the URL (scheme, randomly some third level domains). When you tap in the address field in mobile chrome, to edit the URL, the field gets cleared…

@ned @zoetek @jan @angelastella

@flxtr @s1m0n4 @ned @zoetek @jan

Yes, browsers actually fighting us should be the first thing to fix.

@angelastella
Google'll never fix it. AFAIR they announced about a decade ago or so, they wanted completely get rid of the address bar; that URLs should be completely hidden to users. Of course they got a lot of flak for it, so they are pushing it very slowly. And other browsers do the same because their UI designers think that's how it's done now. The fall from grace was probably to combine the address bar and search bar, even though this is incredibly practical…

@s1m0n4 @ned @zoetek @jan

@flxtr @s1m0n4 @ned @zoetek @jan

I'm not counting on Google for anything. But as long as Chrome is in use and we can't replace it at least it should be properly configured.

@angelastella
Non-techy people will use whatever comes with their device. I don't really see how you can influence that. There are now people who have grown up with the Chrome browser. They don't question it. Such people are as likely to switch browsers as I am to come up with the idea of installing Danish (outward-opening) windows in my house.

(I hope I'm just unimaginative and disillusioned and that someone manages to make tech literacy hip.)

@s1m0n4 @ned @zoetek @jan

@flxtr @s1m0n4 @ned @zoetek @jan

I'm no good at propaganda either and mediocre as a teacher but I've seen changes in my life and not all for the worst.

@zoetek
Yeah, but some rando could just put a sticker with their payment link anyways. Then you might not be tricked, as you find it suspicious, that it's not working with the app. But another person might scan it with their regular QR-code app and still get scamed.

I think QR-code is ok, as long it's shown by the Monitor and the current status and next step is clearly shown.

@jan @s1m0n4 @angelastella @ned

@s1m0n4 @angelastella @ned Happened in fraudulous cases in Belgium too, at gas stations. Luckily not a wide spread event….for now.