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THIS JUST IN:

Car ban begins in the center of #Paris.

Starting on Monday, Nov. 4, 2024: no through-traffic will be allowed in four central arrondissements on the Right Bank. (Home to the Louvre, Notre-Dame, and the Marais).

This is a big deal.

https://urbanaccessregulations.eu/countries-mainmenu-147/france/paris-limited-traffic-zone

Paris - Limited Traffic Zone

Paris will implement a limited traffic zone in its city center no more through traffic allowed.

Show threadsmolwaffleNov 1, 2024
@straphanger
Do you happen to know where I could see how much through traffic there is now? I'm curious how big of a reduction this is expected to be, since they still allow driving *to* everything in the LTZ. How many people are just driving through Paris and not stopping somewhere?
@spacehobo
Show threadavronNov 1, 2024
@smolwaffle @straphanger @spacehobo I am also curious to see whether car drivers will really avoid going through there, since anyway there isn't any clear way to enforce this. I live there so I will see.
Show threadSpace HoboNov 1, 2024
@avron @smolwaffle @straphanger Are there any reasons that ANPR cameras couldn't be implemented?
Show threadavronNov 1, 2024
@spacehobo @smolwaffle @straphanger What for? Any car is allowed to come and visit any place in the area.
Show threadSpace HoboNov 1, 2024
@avron @smolwaffle @straphanger So the way these things work in the UK is that ANPR cameras note the entry and exit times of any motor vehicle at the perimeter. You then set a minimum amount of time that any car needs to be inside the controlled area. So if someone enters at one side and exits the other, they're allowed so long as they spent an hour or so between. If they cut through the area too quickly, they get a fine.
Show threadavron
@spacehobo @smolwaffle @straphanger Ah, I did not know that, interesting. I have not heard of such plans for here (and I read the local newspaper daily). Perhaps local authorities prefer to wait and see first.
Nov 1, 2024 at 6:19pmWeb
Show threadSpace HoboNov 1, 2024

@avron @smolwaffle @straphanger Usually the rules are implemented following the Groeningen plan: http://pootler.spacehobo.com/destinations-vs-thoroughfares-closures-vs-filters.html

That is, the urban core is divided into slices, and barriers are erected so that you have to use the ring road to get from one slice to another. You can drive TO anywhere, but not THROUGH everywhere.

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