THIS JUST IN:

Car ban begins in the center of #Paris.

Starting on Monday, Nov. 4, 2024: no through-traffic will be allowed in four central arrondissements on the Right Bank. (Home to the Louvre, Notre-Dame, and the Marais).

This is a big deal.

https://urbanaccessregulations.eu/countries-mainmenu-147/france/paris-limited-traffic-zone

Paris - Limited Traffic Zone

Paris will implement a limited traffic zone in its city center no more through traffic allowed.

@straphanger

Before someone asks why they didn't just dig tunnels, here is the complex underground situation of Paris:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mines_of_Paris

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catacombs_of_Paris

Mines of Paris - Wikipedia

@GustavinoBevilacqua @straphanger Also if you dig tunnels to run the cars through, they'll just get queued up at the tunnels. The only solution to motor traffic is making every other option better, and this will do that.
@spacehobo @GustavinoBevilacqua @straphanger Am I mistaking or was there some boring chap on the west coast who thinks that tunnels are the solution to urban mobility?!
@spacehobo @moooping @GustavinoBevilacqua @straphanger
Given that after the city was entirely destroyed during world war II, they rebuilt using the technique of "let's just bulldoze the rubble over the unexploded bombs and rebuild the city upon that", they're not exactly fond of digging tunnels in Brest.
@Ash_Crow @moooping @GustavinoBevilacqua @straphanger Yeah, I was just calling out the sudden context-whiplash that randomly took us from France to the US for no real reason.

@spacehobo @Ash_Crow @moooping @straphanger

Actually Brest is on the French "west coast", but just as a geographical concept.

@GustavinoBevilacqua @Ash_Crow @moooping @straphanger yes, that's why I brought it up

@spacehobo @Ash_Crow @moooping @straphanger

And the note about tunnels come to me because here there is people driving to France (less than 100 km from here), noticing underpasses for straight traffic below roundabouts and asking why the town hall doesn't make one here at the motorway exit.

Because under the roundabout there is a creek, you moron! And there is no space to make ramps long enough to underpass even the creek.

@spacehobo @Ash_Crow @GustavinoBevilacqua @straphanger It was the tunnel that got us there πŸ˜‰

@moooping @Ash_Crow @GustavinoBevilacqua @straphanger Ill-advised motoring tunnels exist in the UK as well.

Blackwall, for a start...