"the enemy within" - Lemmy.World

Sally some people think “revenge” is a good enough platform to qualify sometime for the top office. As long as the revenge is at least pretending to target people they already don’t like or that they’ve been programmed to think had wronged them in some way.

High school mentality.

Lorde’s “Yellow Flicker Beat” sounds like it was written for this guy.

Most Trump supporters don’t seem to realize that he wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire. Well, unless they’re members of Mar-a-Lago. I think that’s included in the membership, but I’m gonna guess that job gets delegated to Don Jr. or Eric.
I don’t care how selfish that dog acted, I would vote for them 1000 times before ever considering Trump.
He has concepts of revenge.
Unfortunately, Project 2025 is a whole book/organisation devoted to getting effective permanent revenge.
It’s basically a playbook on how to skirt and break the law in a way not likely to incite a counter revolution.
If that fat cunt can dox me, put me on the list. If your baby hands are big enough to grab the pen.
But I don’t know what is better for me and my country… -Dumb undecided voter
Harris is the obvious choice
Sadly a lot of people unironically think that these captions should be reversed, because revenge = violence and that’s Chad af and helping others is for wusses, or something
Also, hundreds of years of prosperity gospel. If you’re poor or suffering, then you must have done something wrong because God is punishing you. If you’re thriving, then you must be good because God is rewarding you. That’s one reason why the police go after poor people more heavily. There more likely to pull over an old beater car than they are a new pickup truck. So if you want to commit crimes just drive a newer truck because they won’t even look at you. Even better if you put a thin line sticker somewhere.
Not “hundreds of years”, don’t let them make you think it’s old. The idea that “God wants you to be wealthy and healthy and being poor and sick is because you displeased God” only really goes back to the start of the last century, and gained a lot of traction with the Jesus People type revivals in the 70s, when faith healing became a serious mainstream thing in the US. The larger portion of devout US Christians were largely fairly apolitical to left-leaning until about the 50s.
I think it does have some roots from back in the puritan settler days where hard work was a virtue.

Frankly, I think Harris should wave the hammer around liberally in the halls of government.

At least then she would have one liberal policy.

Commander in chief vs whining bully in chief.
Walk in with a to do list??? She is in office now and did shit for us for 4 years. Yeah thats gonna change lol
I think you have to adjust your expectations of politics in America. By your standards no one has done shit.
Biden promised no student debt as a way to get into office and then didn’t follow through. Brings it back when its election time but yeah my expectations are the problem here…lol
Biden has done some good with student debt, starting a couple years ago. He would have done more but was blocked by Republican lawsuits and the Republican supreme court. Don’t let perfect stand in the way of good.
Biden knew it wouldn’t pass thats the point. Hes been in office for long enough to know how these things work. He still promised it!

Heads up:

A plan isn’t a promise. It’s just a proposal to enact policy.

Whey one rewrites a narrative in this way, accusing him of having made a “promise” and then breaking it- one is essentially creating a boogeyman that allows them to show him in a light that favors a clearly biased agenda.

FACT SHEET: President Biden Announces Student Loan Relief for Borrowers Who Need It Most | The White House

A three-part plan delivers on President Biden’s promise to cancel $10,000 of student debt for low- to middle-income borrowers President Biden believes

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youtu.be/fjgb_RXNuSs?feature=shared

But don’t worry his plan is going to succeed this time! Lol also why does this only come up during an election. If you guys are too dumb to understand that Biden is just using you people as votes I can’t help you. I see right through the BS specially after 4 years!

Millions still await Biden's promise of student loan debt forgiveness

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Again, there is no record that I am aware of where Biden ever said “I promise… [THING].”

You’re creating a straw man by purposefully misinterpreting and misrepresenting the difference between a proposed policy and a promise.

And this will remain true regardless of how many you tube videos you post of people calling it a “promise.” This is a poor argument. You really should abandon it.

He ran his campaign on that promise and didn’t go through with it cause once he was in office he didnt need you anymore. Until the next elections and now they dangle the carrot again.

And here we are 2024 still not student debt cancellation but this time it will happen guys lol.

Lastly of course the word “dumb” hurts your feelings

Again. It wasn’t a promise. It was an initiative. It was a plan to enact policy. All politicians propose policy. This is not abnormal. He never promised, nor did he guarantee results. He simply said he intended to do what he can to refuse the debt.

It was also very publicly blocked by conservatives.

Stop making it into something it isn’t.

The difference is you are ok with mediocracy. Im not, if you run a campaign on a promise you pull through. Its like a job interview you lie about your qualifications and get the job. I want that guy fired, you are ok with it.

Again… it wasn’t a promise. How many times does this need to be made clear to you? And it’s not like a job interview where he lied because he didn’t lie.

Do you seriously need the concept of what presidents and lawmakers do explained to you?

They don’t promise anything. Ever. Becasue that isn’t how this works.

You’re hell-bent on this agenda to frame him as a liar using this as an example where there are probably a shit ton of better examples where he was proven to have lied.

This is bad faith.

I have explained this to you, and you continue to side-step the point in favor of continuing on with your rhetoric.

I won’t entertain this further.

Mediocracy is not ok make all the excuses you want. The fact is biden or harris will never get this done. They will dangle it in your face ever election.

Okay… I’d wish you luck getting Trump elected, but I’d be lying. Either way-

I’ve no patience for this anymore.

Biden tried to do it and was blocked by Republicans. That is somehow evidence that Republicans should be given more power?

Maybe Republicans need to stop being such predictable boogey men then if Biden so easily manipulated them to his advantage. What Republicans should have done to mess with Biden was to not block it.

He promised it as part of his presidential run knowing it would never pass. He lied to you!
No, he very much did everything he could to push it through. He did not know during the presidential run if Republicans would have enough seats to block it.
This man has been in politics since 1970 and you think he doesnt know how things work. I thought you had more confidence in this man. No shit the opposite party is going to block him, but a great president like OBAMA was able to get healthcare for everyone just like he promised.
Jesus Christ are you dumb.
  • When he made his intentions clear there were also seats in the house and Senate being voted on, it was not guaranteed the Republicans would have a majority.

  • For those having difficulty following NastyNative’s argument, here is a handy flow chart:

  • I believe we are following the far right branch.

    Biden has a mechanism written into law that allows the Department of Education to cancel student debt. He could relieve trillions in student debt in less time than it took to make that flowchart. He could do it right now. He won’t because he doesn’t want to.

    Instead, he chose to use a method that could be easily blocked by the courts. Why? So he could throw his hands up and still have blue maga claim he tried his damnest, but was thwarted by le ebil Republicans. Your boy is a fucking Republican. He’s the same fucking dude that made sure student debt could not be discharged during bankruptcy. He never wanted to do it, but he found a nice way to win over some white PMC Democrats strattled with student debt.

    Dems would rather lose and blame Republicans than implement progressive policy because their donors will replace them with people who won’t implement progressive policy. They will use whatever “parliamentarian said no” invocation so long as you keep buying it.

    “Biden’s as bad as a Republican!
    So let’s help put Republicans in charge.”
    (See chart above)

    See when Republicans have a modicum of power they reform the entire system.

    for the worse. Fucking. Obviously.

    When Democrats have a modicum of power they wriggle with “tied” hands and wish their opponents would support their aims.

    youtu.be/ByaPsDHEWiw

    He should have crushed the Republican party. Dropped it and let it shatter under the weight of its own crimes, but he coddled it. Because that’s what he was nominated to do.

    Joe Biden: We need a Republican party that is principled and strong

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    Has any US politician done anything for student debit? Is Biden the first presidential candidate who didn’t get what they promised done? This is what I mean, your expectations are not based in reality.
    Ohh so by your standards let them lie! Got it! No other presidential candidate has promised such a thing.
    No, I said expectation, not standard. You do know there is a difference right?
    Lets move the conversation to a different topic! Ummmm i wonder why people do that…
    She’s in office as the vp not the president
    I like to ask the posters like abo 3 “what is the role of the vice president?” They typically mhave no answer, make shit up, or propose things that are definitely not constitutional for a vice president. Then again, they want a dictator so the constitution has little to do with their reasoning.

    Their an envoy of the president, they break ties in the Senate.

    They can’t ride planes together.

    That’s it, on paper.

    Biden managed to do some stuff with his “gaffes” but who knows what was intentional and what was sundowning a full decade before he was elected.

    Even if we all went by your standards, doing literally nothing is still preferable to Donald.
    I and my family had the best 4 years during the trump administration. Where do you guys live?!?!?
    On Earth. What planet are you on?
    They’re a racist with incel energy, check their comments. No wonder they had a great time!
    You had the best 4 years while the deficit doubled and 100k Americans died of COVID?
    Sorry it’s my fault people died of covid… what a dumb take. Hows the deficit doing now? American families cant even AFFORD a home during this GREAT administration.

    They could under trump? What a dumb take.

    Go eat shit in the gutter slime. Not even addressing the deficit. Pretending nobody you know has been affected by COVID.

    In a household where the functional literacy rate is above 30%

    Reality.

    Come check it out sometime.

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    He has concepts of plans though.