Facebook is actively removing postings I'm making today. I maintain a foothold on Facebook, knowing its tawdriness and that it's no friend to progressive politics, because I oversee a family history-DNA project that's housed there. And Facebook is one way I can keep in quick touch with a wide circle of relatives and friends.

First posting removed today: Jess Piper's graphic (below) about white women voting in this election.

https://substack.com/@jesspiper/note/c-72832742

#Facebook #censorship #women #abortion
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Jess Piper on Substack

Substack

Second posting Facebook took down immediately: this excerpt from A.R. Moxon today —

"Nazism is on the ballot this year, and people who consider themselves Nazis know it, even if so many of the rest of us seem not to want to. So it came to pass that Nazis came to the pro-Trump boat show in Jupiter Florida last week."

#Facebook #censorship #Republicans #Trump #Nazis
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https://www.the-reframe.com/this-has-to-be-normal/

This HAS To Be Normal

Normalization in a time of madness, on behalf of a population dedicated to not knowing terrible things. Bearing witness in a supremacist nation on the verge of a Nazi takeover.

The Reframe

I understand that the word Nazi is an algorithm-triggering red flag, and the photo Moxon uses with MAGA folks flying Nazi flags is another one.

But it's perfectly obvious that Moxon is not promoting Nazis, but doing the opposite. So censoring any critical mention of Nazism to refer to Trump is pro-Republican censorship.

And when another posting with no such red flags is yanked immediately the same day, something more's going on here.

#Facebook #censorship #Republicans #Trump #Nazis
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I've just posted the following on my Facebook page and we'lll see what happens:

Yesterday, Facebook immediately took down two of my postings right after I made them, then levying penalties against my account I've never had, which limit my ability to use my account until after November 19 — an interesting choice of dates when the two postings were related to the coming election on November 5.

#Facebook #censorship #Republicans #Trump
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A clear silencing of me up to the post-election period….

One of the postings was a graphic that Jess Piper had posted on Substack.

After the postings were removed, I shared information about this on my Mastodon page. A follower there told me she would post the same Jess Piper graphic on her Facebook feed and see what happened.

She did so. Facebook did not take it down.

#Facebook #censorship #Republicans #Trump
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People keep saying that "the algorithm," as if it's some mystical force acting in independence of human tinkering and will, takes down postings on Facebook.

If that's the case, then I'd like some explanation for why, when I posted that graphic, it was immediately taken down with a warning to me, but when she posted it, nothing happened.

#Facebook #censorship #Republicans #Trump
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Obviously something more is at work as Facebook censors some people than "the algorithm."

One dynamic, I suspect, is that if people watching your account for hostile reasons flag it and report it repeatedly to Facebook, often acting in concert with others, Facebook then puts censorship mechanisms in place for your account. These often have overt political intent.

#Facebook #censorship #Republicans #Trump
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In the lead-up to the 2016 election, I began to find that any time I posted anything with the words "white evangelical(s)" in it, Facebook took the posting down.

Meanwhile, I see on an ongoing basis all sorts of obvious right-wing disinformation being circulated freely on Facebook, with no attempt that I can see made by Facebook to censor that disinformation.

More than "just the algorithm" is at work in Facebook censorship.

#Facebook #censorship #Republicans #Trump
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@wdlindsy even without this there's already a definite bias of the algorithm not just to remove political posts, but anything that is vaguely related to "bad news", I've been stopped for sharing safety messages from the local Fire Brigade (literally how to prevent fires, like the advice from Smokey Bear you have in USA) for vague reasons. I believe there is a deliberate attempt to encourage "toxic positivity" on Meta assets to keep them advertiser friendly..

@vfrmedia "I believe there is a deliberate attempt to encourage 'toxic positivity' on Meta assets to keep them advertiser friendly."

That's a very good point. I agreee. Facebook has never taken down a nice photo I make of my garden or neighborhood or a meal I've cooked.

And even when they do not take down my politically motivated postings, I know that they use some shadow-banning system to keep them from being widely seen.

@wdlindsy even without shadow banning the feed is engineered to prioritise such things as cat videos sponsored by pet food companies rather than my own friends DJ sets (which I often end up missing because their post only appears days later). I don't even have a cat at home!

(I have befriended some neighbours cats, but I certainly don't feed them as I don't want to entice them away from their families)

@vfrmedia You're very right. I'm smiling at your cat comments. We don't have cats, but our neighbors next door to us have several and also feed homeless cats, so that cats are always around our house, and often sleep in chairs on the front porch. It gives us a way to enjoy seeing and petting cats without being responsible for them — and there's the added problem that I'm allergic to them. But, yes, FB absolutely adores cat videos!
@wdlindsy Meta also worked out from cookies dropped by other online stores I had been working on fleet cars as well as my own, there are ads / promoted posts (even with adblocker) for bulk engine oil, a COB LED workshop torch - these are put well ahead of my friends posts and posts from groups I am part of (as they are for things like the 90s rave subculture, that is considered to be linked to "lower socio economic groups")
@vfrmedia Interesting information, for sure. Thank you for it.

@wdlindsy something else I just realised as I was driving to work is that Meta in UK generally allows all sorts of animal rights related content uncensored, even activism such as hunt saboteurs (in UK hunting with dogs in illegal but folk in rural areas still try it).

Again, this is likely due to potential ad revenue - those who are kind to animals tend to both have pets and share food with other creatures such as foxes, badgers as well as feeding wild birds, so more sales opportunities..

@vfrmedia Yes, you have great examples to back up your argument.
@wdlindsy also "Truck and Trump" folk are more likely to accept adverts and marketing without question and even buy stuff from them compared to lefties, especially vehicles, consumer goods, junk food products, meat and other things progressive folk try to cut down on, so they would be viewed as a more valuable demographic/product to Meta...
@vfrmedia That's right. And we have abundant evidence that the whole tech-bro community increasingly leans in a right-wing direction often disguised as "libertarianism."

@wdlindsy @vfrmedia

> tech-bro community [...] disguised as "libertarianism"

Yeah, see my recent blog essay Political Terraforming for additional thoughts on that.

https://netsettlement.blogspot.com/2024/10/political-terraforming.html

Political Terraforming

An essay discussing what libertarianism has become, or has recently been revealed to be.

@wdlindsy

Tha is, because Zucherburg, like all other biljonairs, support MAGA and Trump

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@wdlindsy oh…you don’t know about the snitches do you .
You have at least 10 in your friends list
@MishaVanMollusq I do take for granted that there are snitches on anyone's social media feed. How to know who they are is the challenge, isn't it?
@wdlindsy i often set traps
@MishaVanMollusq Clever of you to think to do that. You just never know who someone on social media really is, do you, unless he/she has made their identity public?
@wdlindsy the second one I busted was someone I knew IRL.
@wdlindsy Friends of mine ran a Facebook fan page for an artist. They somehow made it onto the AI's (random?) shitlist, which means that they could throw some dice whether a link to a source would be allowed or not. They gave up running the page.

@wdlindsy

Near the end of my use of Facebook in 2018, I had an eerie feeling that if I posted depressing things, nobody would ever see them.

Based on that, I started a thread with a kitten image, "We luv kittehs!"

Then a flower image, "flowers is so pritty!"

Then a picture of a cup of coffee, "Best way to start day!"

Getting lots of Likes and "Ha ha!" responses from my Friends.

But in last image, under coffee cup was coaster with scrawled words,

"Novichok was a NATO Article 5 attack."

@murodegrizeco I've noticed that a lot of the clearly fake and suspect accounts on Facebook do nothing but that — post photos of kittens, flowers, exotic scenes in exotic cities. They go totally unharrassed by FB, though they're obviously fake accounts.

@wdlindsy

Interesting.

Some months back, I recall hearing about Meta experimenting with fake participants in their online groups.

One incident reported had a mom who was not a real person. But was relating a pretend parenting experience.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/amp/meta-s-new-ai-agents-confuse-facebook-users-/7576420.html

Meta's new AI agents confuse Facebook users

Bizarre exchanges expose ongoing limitations of even best generative AI technology

Voice of America (VOA News)
@wdlindsy It seems the bigger Social media platforms have a clear agenda.
@snigdha It does, indeed. And it's not a serving-humanity agenda but an exploiting-humanity agenda.

@wdlindsy

Trying to understand an online property, we make dubious models in our heads and use poor analogies.

"Twitter is a town square"

@murodegrizeco Yes. Ludicrously, we did use to speak of Twitter as a "town square," overlooking that it was (and still is) a property owned by super-rich people and could at any moment be put to whatever maleficent purposes they wanted to apply to it.

@wdlindsy

When I was on Facebook I was constantly picking up bans simply for calling someone who was clearly an idiot ‘an idiot’. Even got banned for using the same phrase but in a foreign language (French, Spanish, Portuguese)

There were also bans for using ‘English’ words that offend the sensibilities of stupid fucking septics.

@partnumber2 You've taught me a good new noun I hadn't encountered before: septic. I'm sorry you encountered this with Facebook, too.

@wdlindsy

‘Septic’ is from the rhyming slang ‘septic tank’ = Yank (American)

@partnumber2 Yes, I know the word in that sense, as an adjective. Hadn't seen it used as a noun before. That's a clever use.
@wdlindsy I fear that “the algorithm” plays a major role in the plausible-deniability theater. Makes perfect sense to use it as a smokescreen for takedowns. Ultimately, the ability to blame a proxy with no transparency undermines trust and breeds conspiracy theorizing, which might even be a monetizable strategy.
@wdlindsy
Both of these postings have been around for quite a while. I had them in my feed months ago, and shared them with no issue. But they did remove 2 other things I shared, that made no sense. Their power trip is appalling.
@lolonurse Definitely appalling. And rooted in such corruption.

@wdlindsy

Three possible causes, none mutually exclusive...

1) An illiterate AI picture recognizer saw the swastikas, and presumed the worst thereafter. FB surely doesn't have the labor budget to review very many of these.

2) Perhaps contemporary crypto-nazis are exploiting these defective post-flagging algorithms, spitefully steering them in the opposite direction of their designers intent.

3) Malice, or virtual malice by way of greed-driven reckless negligence, on FB's part.

@oof I can understand the trigger that may have provoked censoring the A.R. Moxon excerpt with its use of the word Nazi and of a photo of a swastika. My focus is on the Jess Piper graphic, which Facebook took down immediately when I posted it, but which a follower here on Mastodon subsequently posted, and FB did nothing to censor her. I'm asking why the disparity….
@wdlindsy @oof A white female friend has posted that graphic several times with no censorship. Clearly you are targeted.
@LPerry2 @oof So I've concluded. And I think the reason probably is that someone or several someones monitors my postings and has reported me to FB in an attempt to try to silence me.

@wdlindsy

"..., and presumed the worst thereafter."

That is, FB's AI spots the swastikas, then being quite oblivious to journalistic intent assumes the user is going to post bad pictures every time, and therefore automatically trashes any graphics from the supposed offender.

@wdlindsy this has been happening to me for a long time.
Try posting almost anything from the tv series The Man In The High Castle
@MishaVanMollusq I'm sorry you've experienced this kind of harassment, too.

@wdlindsy OTOH, I posted this on my county Democratic Party's FB page five days ago and it's still up. I'm guessing it's the phrase "white women" that got your first post TOS'd - FB is well known for TOS'ing any mention of whiteness.

(What prompted the post was a call from a male lifelong Republican who was afraid of retaliation if he votes for Democrats but Trump wins the election.)

@callisto Yes, I thought perhaps that was the trigger. And that, of course, inevitably favors all those who want to suppress discussion of how race determines so many of our choices. And that inevitably favors one of the two parties — so that FB censorship is far from honest and even-handed.