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TropicalDingdongBlue dogs after making claim Republicans will be worse:
Flying SquidBlue dogs after making claim Republicans will be worse:
Democrats won’t deport millions of brown people and force my child and those like her into conversion therapy. So yes, Republicans will be worse.
And this “there’s only one genocide that matters” shit is getting old.
Still apologizing for a genocide eh?
Its causing the Democrats lose this election and you still think you need to white knight for them.
I am doing no such thing. Why are you lying? You can find many comments I have left today denouncing Israeli genocide.
I also care about my child. And all queer children in America.
Why don’t you?
You are a deeply toxic individual who has been doing work to hurt the Democrats chances of getting elected in November, by intentionally cultivating a culture that denies objective reality in an effort to shield Democrats from criticisms they rightly deserve on the mass slaughter of a people, an issues that is deeply hurting their chances of getting elected. You do so through your extraoridnarilly biased moderation, and almost constant white-knighting/ trolling to support the Blue-MAGA movement, a movement whose rhetorical approach has been singularly destructive to the Democrats hopes of getting re-elected in 2024.
You aren’t just a part of the problem in why Democrats are struggling in November; you are at its very core. When its time to decompose what went’ wrong in the 2024 election and I’m doing my write up, I’ll be citing your profile of the quintessential example of how social media was employed to shield Democrats from their own bad decisions in such a way that it handed the Republicans the presidency in 2025.
Your white knighting, pretending you are defending anything, is both narcissistic and toxic. You are friend to no-one as you continuously injure Democrats chances of being re-elected.
{also, the form of trolling you were doing in your above comment is called sea-lioning}
Your whole armchair psychoanalysis of me is a bit undercut by your blatant lie that I support Israel.
psychoanalysis
You dont know what that is, do you?
You can ignore your lie if you want, but the conversation is not going to progress until you acknowledge that it’s a lie.
Do you think what you are doing, going around abusing people into… whatever this is that you think you are doing… Do you think it helps Harris’ chances?
As I already told you, this conversation will not progress until you acknowledge that you lied about me supporting Israel.
Just a toxic, narcissistic, delusional troll, projecting onto people what you wish they were doing and setting these weird “YOU MUST DO THIS THING I DEMAND OF YOU BEFORE I"LL HAVE A CONVERSATION” effort think you are in control of the narrative.
Guess what? Harris is struggling to even poll at break even, and its your fault* for doing, exactly what you are doing right now.
*And the rest of Blue MAGA
And yet this conversation still will not progress until you acknowledge your lie that I support Israel.
You might as well paste random Wikipedia entries for all the difference it makes until then. I will not discuss a single thing in your posts until you acknowledge that is a lie.
You don’t seem to get that this conversation is progressing exactly how I would expect iit to. You aren’t capable of having a conversation in good faith. Its just you in this weird circle jerk relationship you have with literally everyone you troll, where you lay these demands on them thinking you’ve got them in some kind of “gotcha”. Its this weird, kooky, power dynamics thing you do in almost every trolling effort you make.
But fundamentally, you are a troll. Right now you are sea-lioning. You aren’t here to learn or discuss or convince. You are here to try and steer things towards an editorial opinion. Its why you want to get a concession out of whichever discussant you are involved with. And its not a secret; every single comment you’ve made here is available for analysis.
Ah, doubling down on the lie.
But indeed, every single comment I’ve made here is available for analysis.
Like this one, which I made 7 hours ago (you will note that is many hours before you accused me of supporting Israel):
lemmy.world/post/20811402?scrollToComments=true
I assume you’re now going to triple down on the lie, but if you want to acknowledge you lied like an adult, this conversation can move past your lying.
UN says Israeli tanks burst through gates of peacekeeper base - Lemmy.World
The United Nations said on Sunday Israeli tanks had burst through the gates of a base of its peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon, the latest accusation of Israeli violations and attacks that have been denounced by Israel’s own allies. Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called on the United Nations to evacuate the troops of the UNIFIL peacekeeping force from combat areas in Lebanon. Hours later, the force reported what it described as additional Israeli violations, including two Israeli Merkava tanks destroying the main gate of a base and forcibly entering before dawn that morning. Soon after the tanks left, shells exploded 100 metres away, releasing smoke which blew across the base and sickened U.N. personnel, causing 15 to require treatment despite wearing gas masks, it said. It did not say who fired the shells or what sort of toxic substance it suspected. It also accused Israel’s IDF military of halting a logistics convoy. The Israeli military did not immediately respond to the statement.
Ah, doubling down on the lie.
About something you made up or imagined and then told me I claimed about you? Do you see the mental gymnastics? You are so fuckiing weird.
And I dont’ give a fuck what you said some where else. You started this conversation with the below comment.
What we’re talking about:
Democrats won’t deport millions of brown people and force my child and those like her into conversion therapy. So yes, Republicans will be worse.
And this “there’s only one genocide that matters” shit is getting old.
Got it. You are cool with a genocide of so long as Democrats don’t deport millions or force your child into conversion therapy. And to put a finer point on it, you engage in a garnish of what-about-ism for your genocidal apologism salad.
We’re not talking about something you said somewhere else. We’re talking about what you responded to my comment about blue dog Democrats.
You are cool with a genocide
I thought you’d triple down on your lie that I support Israel despite a link and a screenshot to me literally saying Israel should be kicked out of the UN at least until they have a non-genocidal government.
Amazing.
you’d triple down on your lie that I support Israel
You are the one white-knighting for a democratic administration without which this genocide would be impossible. Who give a fuck what you said somewhere else. You started this thread white-knigthing for democrats.
You can’t both claim to be a critic of Israel, and then turn and defend Democrats when people critisize them for their support of Israel.
Like which is it? Are you opposed to genocide or not? If you are, you have to find criticism with the party shielding Israel from the consequences of running a genocide. Its not the Republicans doing that; its Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris, who just this week said “I would do nothing different” of the decisions made by the Biden administration. And if you are white-knighting for the Democrats every at bat, well its pretty easy to see where you stand. Anti-genocide as performance art only.
I have made it very clear that I oppose Israeli genocide. You just keep lying that I do. Stop lying and we can continue this conversation.
(I’m starting to wonder if this has something to do with one of the communities I moderate. And not a news one.)
I have made it very clear that I oppose Israeli genocide.
Oh but you haven’t, because you defend Democrats and their support of genocide at every turn. You make claims and overtures that you oppose the genocide, but whenever it would actually count, for example, by withholding your support for them, its a bridge to far. Hence my claim that its for performance only. Not only that, you troll and brigade the comments where criticism of Democrats is occurring (eg, this thread).
So you can’t do both and still claim you oppose the genocide. Its clear that you think you are on one side of this issue, but your actions show that you are not.
Anything but admit you lied. How childish.
I have spent a large amount of time doing work for Jewish Voices for Peace to try to end this genocide. I’m sure you’ll call them Israel supporters too. Anything but acknowledge that you lied.
Back again huh?
So which is it this time? Defending Democrats genocide in Gaza again (like you started this comment thread out with). Ahh this time its just further projection. You talk out of both sides of your mouth when you defend Democrats with one tongue and claim to oppose genocide with the other.
Wow, this time you’re lying about me supporting Israeli genocide in a thread where I literally never did anything of the sort. People can literally just scroll up.
But feel free to quote me saying I support Israeli genocide. You can’t, because you’re lying. In the stupidest way possible.
But feel free to quote me
Its at the top of the thread buddy.
Democrats won’t deport millions of brown people and force my child and those like her into conversion therapy. So yes, Republicans will be worse.
And this “there’s only one genocide that matters” shit is getting old.
Lets take this statement apart again. Its a defense of Democrats. It makes the claim that Republicans will deport millions, they’ll force your child into therapy, and that Republicans will “be worse”, and that the genocide of Gazans isn’t important because its tiring and there are other genocides.
Israel doesn’t need Republicans to “be worse”. Democrats are bad enough that Israel has had carte blanc to ethnically cleanse the northern half of the Gaza strip. Israel has everything they need: they don’t need Republcians to “be worse”. Israel has gotten every single thing that it has needed to conduct this genocide, and it has come entirely from the US Administrations defense of their genocidal policies. And by making this effort that you are making, to shield Democrats from criticism, you are giving them all the cover they need to continue supporting this genocide.
The other part of your claim which is relevant is
And this “there’s only one genocide that matters” shit is getting old.
That is such an interesting way of trivializing the extermination of a people. I don’t even know that I have commentary for that statement, because its so disgusting and abhorent at face value. Like, you are mad that people aren’t just calmly going along with your para-social cheer-leading of an objectively pro-genocide candidate (instead of being crticial of her to try to get her to change). And you are just “annoyed” that you have to keep hearing about the ethnic cleansing of a people. Like its so annoying these people are getting murdered and you are just mad because its making your candidate look bad.
So yeah. These are the statements I take issue with. They are deeply problematic.
Cool, so I never said that I supported Israel’s genocide, and, in fact, suggested that not only was that genocide terrible, so are the other two.
And at this point, you’ve convinced me that this is just some bigoted nonsense about my ethnicity.
I mean you said what you said dude. I’m just quoting you.
Yes, you quoted me saying three genocides were even worse than one genocide, which is already terrible.
Which is the opposite of supporting a genocide.
You lied, and now it’s clear to me that you’ve been lying because you think a Jew automatically supports Israel.
I’m guessing this is also queerphobic.
Like, you get that this conversation is happening in public right?
So constantly repeating:
You lied
About something the other person never said is like, not great, in terms of showing that you are more correct on a matter? People can just… see that your claim has no merit. We’re only talking about what you said. Not anything else. No other claims were made on anything other than direct quotes from you.
But I get it. You are fine with the genocide of Gazans because there are other genocides in other places. You don’t want to be annoyed by hearing about it any longer.
I get it. You think all Jews support Israel.
And you hate queer people. You hate Jews and queer people. You’ve said so repeatedly.
Never said anything of the sort. In-fact, I’m pretty sure this is harassment.
You made it very clear that you don’t care about the genocide if queer people and you refused to answer multiple times when I suggested you think Jews all support Israel.
Therefore you hate Jews and queer people.
I’m using your logic.
Of course, I’ll be happy to say you don’t hate Jews and queer people if you admit I don’t support Israeli genocide.
And you’ve literally been harassing me this entire time by repeatedly lying that I support Israel.
How about you stop harassing me?
You said:
Democrats won’t deport millions of brown people and force my child and those like her into conversion therapy. So yes, Republicans will be worse.
And this “there’s only one genocide that matters” shit is getting old.
You told me “feel free to quote me”, and so I have.
For you, this genocide doesn’t matter and is “getting old”. Your words. Not mine, not anyone else’s. You are responsible for them, and try as you might, you wont be able to make this conversation about something it isn’t.
I do not support Israel. I proved it in multiple ways. Stop harassing me and insisting I do.
Stop harassing me.
And this “there’s only one genocide that matters” shit is getting old.
This seems pretty dismissive of the genocide of an entire people.
I do not support Israel. I proved it in multiple ways. Stop harassing me and insisting I do.
Stop harassing me.
I just want to know what you meant when you said this:
And this “there’s only one genocide that matters” shit is getting old.
When you say “shit is getting old”, it seems like you don’t care about the genocide of the Gazan people. Like you are tired of hearing about it.
What did you mean when you said that?
I do not support Israel. I proved it in multiple ways. Stop harassing me and insisting I do.
Stop harassing me.
You can just uhh… not respond? And if you did respond, you might consider offering a explanation for why you think addressing the issue of the genocide of the Gazan people is just “shit is getting old.”
Because otherwise this:
And this “there’s only one genocide that matters” shit is getting old.
Sure does look like a statement dismissing of the genocide of a people.
I do not support Israel. I proved it in multiple ways. Stop harassing me and insisting I do.
Stop harassing me.