"Trump and Vance are teaching us that the government cannot do anything except turn us against one another. They do so by spreading disinformation about critical matters like hurricanes, so that people despise and disrupt the government, the only institution that can help. This is impotence politics, and it leads to fascism."

~ Timothy Snyder

#Trump #JDVance #hurricane #ClimateChange #fascism #lies #disinformation #PoliticsofHate
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https://snyder.substack.com/p/from-the-storm-to-the-stormtroopers

From the Storm to the Stormtroopers

The Fascist Logic of Climate Lying

Thinking about...

"As climate change worsens, the fascism will worsen too. This is the politics of catastrophe, which is where we are heading next. When we face a truly existential problem, and when our politics is not about policy but about enmity, we will blame the victims."

It will be all about the migrants, who will necessarily try to escape the effects of climate change in areas to the south hit hardest by this.

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"And none of this is new. Hitler too denied the science that would have solved the basic problems of survival; Hitler too promoted ecological crisis as a reason for race war; Hitler too started from mass deportations of migrants (largely carried out by a non-governmental actor deputized for the purpose, the SS)."

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"The truth is, it’s getting harder to describe the extent to which a meaningful percentage of Americans have dissociated from reality. ...

Even in a decade marred by online grifters, shameless politicians, and an alternative right-wing-media complex pushing anti-science fringe theories, the events of the past few weeks stand out for their depravity and nihilism."

~ Charlie Warzel

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https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/10/hurricane-milton-conspiracies-misinformation/680221/

I’m Running Out of Ways to Explain How Bad This Is

What’s happening in America today is something darker than a misinformation crisis.

The Atlantic

"This is more than just a misinformation crisis. To watch as real information is overwhelmed by crank theories and public servants battle death threats is to confront two alarming facts: first, that a durable ecosystem exists to ensconce citizens in an alternate reality, and second, that the people consuming and amplifying those lies are not helpless dupes but willing participants."

#Trump #JDVance #hurricane #ClimateChange #fascism #lies #disinformation
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"It is difficult to capture the nihilism of the current moment. The pandemic saw Americans, distrustful of authority, trying to discredit effective vaccines, spreading conspiracy theories, and attacking public-health officials. But what feels novel in the aftermath of this month’s hurricanes is how the people doing the lying aren’t even trying to hide the provenance of their bullshit."

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"Similarly, those sharing the lies are happy to admit that they do not care whether what they’re pushing is real or not. ...

What we’re witnessing online during and in the aftermath of these hurricanes is a group of people desperate to protect the dark, fictitious world they’ve built."

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@wdlindsy "It's just lolz man" . Must say that owning up to my inner grumpy old man is getting easier and easier. It's getting to where I need to sit down and close my eyes if I see a frog.
@hakona 😀