There is a lot of alarmist stuff going around about .io ccTLD being "retired", fedi instances that use it having to move, etc. 👀

Keep calm. Here's the one thing you need to know about this right now:

👉 Even if .io ever gets "retired", it will take *years* for this to affect already delegated .io domains in any way at all.

I cannot stress this enough, we are talking years if not decades.

Soviet Union dissolved 33 years ago, but .su domains still resolve.

Deep breaths.
Carry on.

#Fediverse

Q: You're just some rando on the Internet, what can you possibly know? 🤔

A: I used to work for the .IS ccTLD registry. I currently work for Quad9 DNS resolver. I happen to know a thing or two about DNS.

Q: Okay, but you don't have personal stake in this, do you? So of course you're not worried! 🤷‍♀️

A: My home domain – where my blog is, where my personal infra is, and where my hobby projects are hosted – is rys.io. Yes, a .io domain. I have a very personal stake in this.

Q: Does this mean .io domains will be around forever?

A: It is possible that the .io ccTLD will become a generic TLD, sponsored by some organization instead of being tied to a specific territory. It is also possible that it will get retired in some years.

Q: So what's your plan with your rys.io?

A: I will wait and see what happens. Once a decision is made about .io, I wil either just keep using it, or plan an orderly migration. I expect to have *years* for that at that point.

@rysiek

I'm following exactly the same plan.

@rysiek "It is possible that the .io ccTLD will become a generic TLD," I don't see how. If ISO really removes it, it won't be removed but put in "reserved" list (see `fx` as example). After which ICANN will certainly not allow anything using it.

@pmevzek because we know ICANN is in no way receptive to arguments, especially ones that happen to be backed by loads of money.

*cough* .zip *cough*

@rysiek If they start to allow reserved alpha2 iso3166 codes, lots will be asked for. Like `.gb` as British government asked to be retired recently, even if not really used, and by same logic someone else could claim it. Again, I don't think this will ever happen. gTLD rounds are a totally other open bar and next round is in less than 2 years now, watch for surprises ;-)

@rysiek IANA has made a specific policy about this because they don't want a repeat of .su or .yu. Most TLDs for countries removed from ISO3166 have been deleted from the root zone, e.g. .tp, .yu, .zr, and .an.

Under the policy retirement would take up to 5 years after ISO 3166/MA takes action, or 10 years if the registrar requests an extension.

Retirement of a Country-code Top-level Domain (ccTLD)

@artemist @rysiek yeah

there’s a nice summary at https://domainincite.com/30406-five-times-icann-deleted-a-cctld-and-what-it-means-for-io

the crucial thing is how Mauritius decides to handle the territory

if i were them, i would arrange to keep chagos separate enough that ISO 3166 MA agree it can continue to have its own code, and name chagos so it can keep the code IO

then insist to IANA that chagos should have sovereign control over the .io TLD, while keeping everything working

then use the income to compensate the chagossians

Five times ICANN deleted a ccTLD, and what it means for .io - Domain Incite

With the future of .io coming into question this week, with the news that the UK will return sovereignty of the British Indian Ocean Territory to Mauritius, I thought it would be a good time to see how ICANN has treated disappearing countries and territories in the past. As far as I can tell, ccTLDs

Domain Incite - Domain Name Industry News, Analysis & Opinion
@rysiek yeah, the policy is that it HAS to take at least five years.
@joby this is not correct. The policy is within 5 years, but they are allowed to do it sooner. https://www.iana.org/help/cctld-retirement
Retirement of a Country-code Top-level Domain (ccTLD)

@brad I would read it as more like it will by default be removed in five years, and there’s an option to extend it up to five more. There’s also the option reserved for IANA to shorten the deadline, but I can’t imagine why they would do that.

I don’t think it’s at all realistic to expect less than five more years of .io

@brad if anything I think this one will have a more compelling argument than most TLDs would to get that extension, since it’s so popular for infrastructure-ey type services.

@rysiek you pretty much said it. If France can still have what is effectively just another ccTLD for .aq, certainly the UK will not have a problem keeping .io alive for their claim.

That's not even mentioning .gb exists and hasn't been used for decades, with the UK only last year giving their intention to retire it

@kc @rysiek or give .io to Mauritius
@rysiek I was today years old when I learned that there was a .su TLD
@rysiek TFW you are reminded that the USSR lasted into the period of time that it got a TLD.
@rysiek Soviet Union pretty much still exists today unfortunately.
more importantly, who gives a shit?
fuck anyone who profiteered
off the backs of the Chagossians:
you aren't even a serious technologist
if you prioritized marketing vanity
over sustainability for your project.
you reap what you sow;
you get exactly what you deserve.
@rysiek well, you don't know what plans Russia has... let's see how this post ages ;)