From a Discord comment about this post:

you know, i'm surprised lina and cyan talk about something so personal publicly

I think people don't write enough about healthy relationship dynamics. Sure, it's personal, but how are others supposed to learn what is healthy and what isn't if we don't talk about it?

The internet is full of horror stories about abuse, neglect, weaponized incompetence, cheating... but you almost never see long posts about positive relationship situations. The bad stories are a good reference for what not to do... but how are people going to learn what to do?

The way relationships are presented in media is very stereotyped, dry and often ritualistic (and sometimes actually veering on abuse or toxicity even when that is not the intent), but it's the only reference a lot of young people have for this stuff. Is that really okay?

I get the feeling a lot of people fall into "tolerable" relationships because they feel obliged to, or due to peer or family pressure, and they never realize that's not how it's supposed to be, because they just don't know. They think that as long as you aren't having regular fights with your partner and there is no physical abuse, that's a healthy relationship. But that's just the lowest bar...

I waited many years until I found Cyan, but I'm so glad I did. 🩵

https://vt.social/users/cyan/statuses/113256887195850285
Cyan Nyan 賽小鹽 // nullptr::live (@[email protected])

I sat across @lina’s legs and whispered in her ear: “Babe, imagine this: You’re 14, and you invite your crush over for dinner.” “Your family’s all upstairs. And I suddenly sit on your lap” Her expression started to turn a little playful. “You think you’ve just invited a friend over to hang out. You finally meet a girl who can also code, and you think tonight is just for some pair programming.” I felt like I had her imagination hooked. She tried not to laugh, holding it in. Then, she burst out laughing, covering her mouth. “Was I too specific?” I asked. She laughed even harder, pushing me away. “The pair programming part totally ruined the mood, too funny!” #AsaCyan

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@lina The stuff shown on media is often so horrible that I genuinely thought relationships are more trouble than they are worth.

Then again, I turned out to be aro, so  

But honestly, it's only on fedi do I start seeing relationships that don't look like they are about to crash and burn (or are already on fire).

@rgbunny @lina

Good point about how media portrays relationships, I've often thought the same thing. I can't stand modern movies or tv shows just because the people involved are so terrible to get along with that they're just painful to watch.

And yeah, whenever media tries to portray a healthy relationship, it's always so stilted and by-the-numbers that it's actually somehow worse than a dysfunctional relationship.

@rgbunny @lina Bad sells, it’s more entertaining sadly.

And it pains me but I get it. If something in my life isn’t going well, no matter what, I don’t get any solace in seeing it going well for others. But I can find a shared experience in misery.

That’s not say I like the misery porn of the news etc (I avoid commercial news in general, it’s toxic), but more that I enjoy dark/sad/minor key music and dark/self deprecating humor.

I do think it would do society wonders if we got better at being positive and supportive. So I am all for it!