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Exploits of "lawful access" interfaces, such as the Chinese attack reported today by the WSJ, appeared almost immediately after they became standardized in the 90's. The most famous example is the case known as "the Athens Affair" https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-athens-affair .
It was a bad idea then, and still a bad idea now.
Mandated wiretap interfaces and cryptographic backdoors are *expensive*, both in terms of money and, more importantly, exposure to risk. Worse, those burdens are borne inequitably.
Overall, almost no one is the subject of a lawful wiretap, even in places where wiretapping is an important investigative tool. Most people aren't suspects. But these mandates degrade security (and impose other costs) for *everyone*, the vast majority of whom will never be wiretapped.
So you want law enforcement to not report security-holes in software, because they will need them to stay open for "lawful hacking" purposes ?
That doesn't sound particular workable to me... ?
Yeah, that's what I think too.
But Matt just said that court orders would have to be satisfied by "lawful hacking", so how does that work, if there are no vulnerabilities to exploit ?
To me it sounds like having your cake and eating it too:
You want perfect encryption and perfect software, and then police must rely on "lawful hacking" to satisfy a court-order for wiretapping.
What precisely is "lawful hacking" then ?
@bsdphk @SteveBellovin If only we had written an entire paper about this, and if only Steve had included a link to it.
But I understand if you'd rather just yell at people on the Internet.
I've read your paper, I dont recall you answering the question I asked anywhere in it ?
What have I overlooked ?
No, I do not believe in perfect software, and that has nothing to do with what I'm asking you guys:
Your suggestion is taht law enforcement can only execute wiretaps through "already present [...] software vulnerabilities".
My question is: How do you guarantee that there are already vulnerabilities available when a court order must be executed ?
And if there is a shortage, how will they be meted out ?
As I said: That is no way to run "A country built on laws"
You overlooked that I'm not from USA ?
Your paper does not address the situation in any other country, than USA.
And I will posit, that if your "solution" for USA is adopted, it will kneecap the judicial system in almost all other countries.
Because, surely you realize, that there can not be one solution for USA and another for Denmark, right ?
How do you expect a small country like Denmark will obtain an adequate supply of vulnerabilities ?