Half of all science publishers quit within 10 years. Women quit more than men. Bunch of quitters!

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03222-7

🤔Quit? Or were driven out?

My favorite* part is that women in CompSci, Engineering, Math, and Physics, are less likely to stop publishing than women in less sexist academic fields. Possibly because we run young girls in Math/CS/Eng/Physics through a sexism gauntlet from day 1, so by the time they're grown women the survivors cope with gendered hostility better.😮

(*Least)

Nearly 50% of researchers quit science within a decade, huge study reveals

Twenty years of publishing data across many countries and disciplines show women are more likely than men to leave research.

This is EU data, but speaking of math: US people, don't do the math on being a poor Black girl with straight As, who takes out loans for 4 years of undergraduate tuition + 5 years of grad school tuition to get a PhD, and then only being able to use it for under 9 years. 🤡

Brilliant Black girls tend to have much poorer parents than the average American, and so need to borrow more for college. They're also more likely to excel in school and complete more levels than Black boys.

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@mekkaokereke always loved this graph demonstrating how wealthy, 'bad' students are for more likely to graduate from college than non-wealthy, 'good' students.
@Shebeencounter @mekkaokereke This makes a great case for free education (even give it to the rich, I don’t care). Look at all those lost opportunities for our society in the lower line. They could have been helped (by normalizing the income gap), then we would all have been better off (by having more smart citizens with degrees). Instead, the arrogance of the bootstraps view is hurting us all.

@obviousdwest @Shebeencounter @mekkaokereke

Speaking as a German from a working class family, American-style tuition fees certainly would have scared me away from studying.

In fact, during my studies of physics, I did contemplate going to the USA as an exchange student. But then I took a look at the tuition fees they charged(*) at the American university that my own was partnered with, thought: "Are these guys NUTS?", and decided to go to Scotland instead.

And I am very glad that public German universities _still_ don't charge any tuition fees.

(*) That was $8000 per term, back in the late 1990s. I gather that tuition fees at American universities have increased a tad since then.

@juergen_hubert @obviousdwest @Shebeencounter

But why is US education so expensive? By now, y'all already know.

Why is everything that's weird and self-destructive in the US that way? The answer is of course racism.

Eg, in the 80s, an advisor to Ronald Reagan warned that cheap college tuition leads to "an educated proletariat," which he didn't want. So to prevent this, they intentionally made college education unaffordable for most. Seriously.

https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/110794448767679670

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mekka okereke :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] Not just "seem to exist" College used to be cheap. Then Roger Freeman (worked for Nixon and Reagan) said “We are in danger of producing an educated proletariat. … That’s dynamite! We have to be selective on who we allow [to go to college].” Reagan agreed. So they changed state college tuition structure to what it is today. And now here we are. 🤷🏿‍♂️ https://theintercept.com/2022/08/25/student-loans-debt-reagan/

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@juergen_hubert @obviousdwest @Shebeencounter

And again, Black folk are *disproportionally* impacted, because we are *more likely* to be poor. But there are many times more white folk than Black folk in the US. There are so many of you!

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What this means, is that there are a lot of poor white people. And a system designed like this *hurts white people the most*.

Let me say it again more directly: poor white kids get hurt most by the anti-Black racism of US college financing.🙂🙃

@mekkaokereke @juergen_hubert @obviousdwest @Shebeencounter

If you don't believe Mekka, go read Heather McGhee's great book on the subject, The Sum of Us.

In fact go read it even if you do believe him. It's a great book.

@joeinwynnewood @mekkaokereke @juergen_hubert @obviousdwest @Shebeencounter
The Sum of Us really is a great book.

I'm an American living in Europe for the last 7 years. There is plenty of racism over here, but it has never distorted society like it has in the USA. Indeed, America is so racist, when you criticize racism they think you're criticizing America.

@mekkaokereke @obviousdwest @Shebeencounter

In #Germany, the proletariat is kept away from universities in a different manner.

While this varies by region, many of the German states channel kids into three different school types after fourth grade (around the age of 10 or so):

- Gymnasium (grammar school): Students who complete the Gymnasium get the "Abitur", which is the primary entrance requirement for universities. (Some particularly popular fields of study such as Law or Medicine require high grade averages, but less popular ones like Physics do not)

- Realschule: Children who go there tend to go to trade schools after finishing Realschule. This doesn't have as much negative status in Germany in the USA - the German trade school system is top notch. Still, university degrees have a higher social status.

- Hauptschule: Students who finish Hauptschule might be able to get some trade apprenticeship, but this school type has increasingly become the dumping ground for children the German education system has given up on.

So how do children get into one of these three school types? Well, their grades in 4th grade matter - but so do the recommendations of their primary teachers. Who might have a whole bunch of prejudices about children from nonwhite, working class, or immigrant backgrounds.

Parents who have an academic degree of their own tend to know what matters and how to ensure that their children get into the Gymnasium, but parents from poorer backgrounds often do not. It _is_ possible to get the Abitur later on, but that requires extra effort and more years of study, and many do not bother.

I came from a working class background and was lucky enough to get into the Gymnasium, study, and even get a PhD. But many other children in Germany from disadvantaged backgrounds aren't so lucky.

@obviousdwest @juergen_hubert @mekkaokereke @Shebeencounter educated working class is bad for rich people. The lack of empathy is eye-watering.
Nowadays, the owner class is trying to lock out the white collar upper-middle class from the means to join them. AI to the rescue of the billionaires, those struggling saps…