The only reason they want a popular vote system is because it would have worked in their favor in 2000 and 2016.

The minute it goes against “their” candidate they’ll scream to go back to the electoral college.

See the multi-state pact here:

www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation

Currently passed in 17 states for 209 electoral college votes, it doesn’t take effect until there are 270 accounted for.

But do you really think the residents of a state like Oregon, or Washington, or California will just be OK with their electoral college votes being passed to a popular vote winner who is a Republican?

Especially if that person failed to win their state?

But do you really think the residents of a state like Oregon, or Washington, or California will just be OK with their electoral college votes being passed to a popular vote winner who is a Republican?

Yes, because they won. People who favor democracy understand they won’t always be in the majority, and that’s OK bedause they aren’t shitbags. People who only want the system to work in their favor are called Conservatives.

You have more faith than I do. If Oregonians thought their vote was overturned because of a national popular vote winner, there would be riots.

Their vote wasn’t “overturned” their vote counted just as much as anyone else’s they just lost.

Under the multi-state pact, if Oregon voted overwhelmingly for Harris, but Trump won the national popular vote, and our electoral college votes were delivered to Trump because of the popular vote, yeah, that would be overturning the will of Oregon voters and there would be riots.

Overturning what exactly? To record their votes in the EC for the losing candidate in a symbolic gesture? No one gives a shit about that, they’re still losing. You’ll have the state tallies, which actually count people, if you really want to say “most Oregonians disliked Trump”.

The way the multi-state pact works is that member states agree to give all their electoral votes to whoever wins the national popular vote, regardless of who the state actually voted for.

It doesn’t actually get rid of the Electoral College, that would take a constitutional amendment, it just re-apportions the Electoral College votes based on the outcome of the popular vote.

So in 2000 and 2016, the Democratic candidate won Oregon, and won the popular vote, they would get all the electoral college votes, not a problem, even though they lost the election overall.

Where it WILL be a problem is if the Democratic candidate wins the state, but the Republican candidate wins the national popular vote.

State voters will be told “Yeah, we don’t care who you actually voted for, the Republican gets the votes from your state.” OMG there will be riots.

Think of it like this… Your vote in your state gets inverted because of voters in Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, etc. etc.