OpenAI Execs Mass Quit as Company Removes Control From Non-Profit Board and Hands It to Sam Altman

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OpenAI Execs Mass Quit as Company Removes Control From Non-Profit Board and Hands It to Sam Altman - Lemmy.ca

Altman downplayed the major shakeup.

"Leadership changes are a natural part of companies

Is he just trying to tell us he is next?

/s

unironically, he ought to be next, and he better know it, and he better go quietly
The ceo at my company said that 3 years ago, we are going through execs like I go through amlodipine.

They always are and they know it.

Doesn’t matter at that level it’s all part of the game.

We need a scapegoat in place when the AI bubble pops, the guy is applying for the job and is a perfect fit.
He is happy to be scapegoat as long as exit with a ton of money.
Just making structural changes sound like “changing the leader”.
Sam: “Most of our execs have left. So I guess I’ll take the major decisions instead. And since I’m so humble, I’ll only be taking 80% of their salary. Yeah, no need to thank me”

You know guys, I’m starting to think what we heard about Altman when he was removed a while ago might actually have been real.

/s

I wonder if all those people who supported him like the taste of their feet.

like the taste of their feet.

And it’s kinda funny that they are now the ones being removed
What was the behind the scenes deal on this? I remember it happening but not the details
just came to me that his Alt-man name is quite fitting for AI
Was Alt-man AI-generated all along? Impressive if true.
When he’s done he’ll be known as skynet
I still wait for a reprogrammed terminator send back in time by the resistance to kill altman 🫢 maybe it got destroyed on the way…
Hehehehehe it’s the exact same naming strategy used in Death Stranding. Dr. Heartman, Deadman,

There’s an alternate timeline where the non-profit side of the company won, Altman the Conman was booted and exposed, and OpenAI kept developing machine learning in a way that actually benefits actual use cases.

Cancer screenings approved by a doctor could be accurate enough to save so many lives and so much suffering through early detection.

Instead, Altman turned a promising technology into a meme stock with a product released too early to ever fix properly.

What is OpenAI doing with cancer screening?
AI models can outmatch most oncologists and radiologists in recognition of early tumor stages in MRI and CT scans.
Further developing this strength could lead to earlier diagnosis with less-invasive methods saving not only countless live and prolonging the remaining quality life time for the individual but also save a shit ton of money.

That is a different kind of machine learning model, though.

You can’t just plug in your pathology images into their multimodal generative models, and expect it to pop out something usable.

And those image recognition models aren’t something OpenAI is currently working on, iirc.

I’m fully aware that those are different machine learning models but instead of focussing on LLMs with only limited use for mankind, advancing on Image Recognition models would have been much better.

I agree but I also like to point out that the AI craze started with LLMs and those MLs have been around before OpenAI.

So if openAI never released chat GPT, it wouldn’t have become synonymous with crypto in terms of false promises.

Don’t know about image recognition but they released DALL-E , which is image generating and in painting model.
DALL-E - Wikipedia

Fun thing is, most of the things AI can, they never planned it to be able to do it. All they tried to achieve was a sentence completion tool.
Not only that, image analysis and statistical guesses have always been around and do not need ML to work. It’s just one more tool in the toolbox.
Wasn’t it proven that AI was having amazing results, because it noticed the cancer screens had doctors signature at the bottom? Or did they make another run with signatures hidden?
There were more than one system proven to “cheat” through biased training materials. One model used to tell duck and chicken apart because it was trained with pictures of ducks in the water and chicken on a sandy ground, if I remember correctly.
Since multiple multiple image recognition systems are in development, I can’t imagine they’re all this faulty.

They are not ‘faulty’, they have been fed wrong training data.

This is the most important aspect of any AI - it’s only as good as the training dataset is. If you don’t know the dataset, you know nothing about the AI.

That’s why every claim of ‘super efficient AI’ need to be investigated deeper. But that goes against line-goes-up principle. So don’t expect that to happen a lot.

No, there isn’t really any such alternate timeline. Good honest causes are not profitable enough to survive against the startup scams. Even if the non-profit side won internally, OpenAI would just be left behind, funding would go to its competitors, and OpenAI would shut down. Unless you mean a radically different alternate timeline where our economic system is fundamentally different.
I mean wikipedia managed to do it. It just requires honest people to retain control long enough. I think it was allowed to happen in wikipedia’s case because the wealthiest/greediest people hadn’t caught on to the potential yet.
There are infinite timelines, so, it has to exist some(wehere/when/[insert w word for additional dimension]).
Or we get to a time where we send a reprogrammed terminator back in time to kill altman 🤓
Hes gonna be the first one the ai kills and i look forward to it
I’d look forward to it more if we could stop the AI at that point.
AInis already a bubble, he will be the scapegoat
Why would it?
Cos he want to control it
I’m sure they were dead weight. I trust open AI completely and all tech gurus named Sam. Btw, what happened to that Crypto guy? He seemed so nice.
He is taking a time out with a friend in an involuntary hotel room.
With Puff Daddy? Tech bros do the coolest stuff.
I hope I won’t undermine your entirely justified trust but Altman is also a crypto guy, cf Worldcoin. /$
If you want to get really mad, read On The Edge by Nate Silver.
Good. Now do the rest of them.

Putting my tin foil hat on…Sam Altman knows the AI train might slowing down soon.

The OpenAI brand is the most valuable part of the company right now, since the models from Google, Anthropic, etc. can beat or match what ChatGPT is, but they aren’t taking off coz they aren’t as cool as OpenAI.

The business models to train & run models is not sustainable. If there is any money to be made it is NOW, while the speculation is highest. The nonprofit is just getting in the way.

This could be wishful thinking coz fuck corporate AI, but no one can deny AI is in a speculative bubble.

Take the hat off. This was the goal. Whoops, gotta cash in and leave! I’m sure it’s super great, but I’m gone.
That’s an excellent point! Why oh why would a tech bro start a non-profit? Its always been PR.

It honestly just never occurred to me that such a transformation was allowed/possible. A nonprofit seems to imply something charitable, though obviously that’s not the true meaning of it. Still, it would almost seem like the company benefits from the goodwill that comes with being a nonprofit but then gets to transform that goodwill into real gains when they drop the act and cease being a nonprofit.

I don’t really understand most of this shit though, so I’m probably missing some key component that makes it make a lot more sense.

A nonprofit seems to imply something charitable, though obviously that's not the true meaning of it

Life time of propaganda got people confused lol

Nonprofit merely means that their core income generating activities are not subject next to the income tax regimes.

While some non profits are charities, many are just shelters for rich people's bullshit behaviors like foundations, lobby groups, propaganda orgs, political campaigns etc

Thank you! Like i said, i figured there’s something I’m missing–that would appear to be it.

Non profit == inflated costs

(Sometimes)

classic pump and dump at thjs point. He wants to cash in while he can.
If you can’t make money without stealing copywritten works from authors without proper compensation, you should be shut down as a company
ai is such a dead end. it can’t operate without a constant inflow of human creations, and people are trying to replace human creatures with AI. it’s fundamentally unsustainable. I am counting the days until the ai bubble pops and everyone can move on. although AI generated images, video, and audio will still probably be abused for the foreseeable future. (propaganda, porn, etc)

That is a good point, but I think I’d like to make the distinction of saying LLM’s or “generic model” is a garbage concept, which require power & water rivaling a small country to produce incorrect results.

Neural networks in general that can (cheaply) learn on their own for a specific task could be huge! But there’s no big money in that, since its not a consolidated general purpose product tech bros can flog to average consumers.

To be fair, the article linked this idiotic one about OpenAI’s “thirsty” data centers, where they talk about water “consumption” of cooling cycles… which are typically closed-loop systems.

futurism.com/…/chatgpt-ai-water-consumption

ChatGPT Is Consuming a Staggering Amount of Water

It's no secret that AIs like ChatGPT require insane amounts of energy — but as a new paper reveals, they also seem to use an absurd amount of water, too. 

Futurism
They are typically closed-loop for home computers. Datacenters are a different beast and a fair amount of open-loop systems seem to be in place.

But even then, is the water truly consumed? Does it get contaminated with something like the cooling water of a nuclear power plant? Or does the water just get warm and then either be pumped into a water body somewhere or ideally reused to heat homes?

There’s loads of problems with the energy consumption of AI, but I don’t think the water consumption is such a huge problem? Hopefully, anyway.

Does it get contaminated with something like the cooling water of a nuclear power plant?

This doesn’t happen unless the reactor was sabotaged. Cooling water that interacts with the core is always a closed-loop system. For exactly this reason.