Does the word "burger" have any extra meaning in some parts of the gay or lgbtq community?

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Does the word "burger" have any extra meaning in some parts of the gay or lgbtq community? - Blåhaj Lemmy

I have seen at least 1 meme or other joke somewhere on the platform where one also mentioned a “twink” and where that word appeared to be the punchline somehow. I’ve scrolled through Urban Dictionary a bit (haha) and the meanings mentioned there are either literal, using burger as a metaphor for the kind of person who looks like they consume burgers regularly, as a random surrogate for things that are kind of round (haha) or even that aren’t, or 1 Instance of fandom ship name for piece of media where the name of a character sounds like the word for onions in Japanese. That didn’t really get me anywhere. Did I correctly pick up that I don’t get it, or is there nothing more to this word?

Wellll, like others have said, twink is a long standing term for very feminine presenting gay men, with varying regional connotations as to whether they’re also very thin and/or petite, and it can be used separate from a “flame”, which is a term for the very flamboyant gay men regardless of their presentation or physical appearance.

There’s a lot of overlap between twinks, flames, otters, and queens (which may or may not mean drag queens, depending on where you are). Some people use them interchangeably, others will use them as separate aspects.

Now, burger, I haven’t heard in a long time among gay folks. The only gay specific usage I am aware of was complimentary, as in “mmm, I wanna get a bite of that burger”. It was usually directed at someone with superior buns, though sometimes someone with a lot of meat. But the last time I heard that, I think it was maybe 1999? 98? And afaik, it wasn’t one of those terms that was used everywhere.

Mind you, most of the above is filtered through media, and/or local gay culture in my area. I’ve never lived anywhere but the south, and only in one state. I’ve visited plenty of the east coast, and since I’ve always felt more comfortable around gay strangers than straight strangers, I have had some exposure to other local cultures. But the majority of what I’ve picked up is regional. You’d be amazed how much difference there is in the gay scene between Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, Savannah, etc, just here in the south. You go north and things can be even less familiar.

Back in the day, a lot of the slang and culture traveled with drag queens. The ones that would travel for shows carried all the news and culture with them, like fabulous bards.

Anyway, memory lane aside, that’s the only context I’ve heard burger used for specific to gay culture.

ok I recognize all those but otter.

Otters would be bears, but they’re twinks.

Bears and otters both share being fairly hairy to some degree. Bears is usually applied to bigger men, and also typically to masculine presenting men as well as being past the mid twenties in age.

Otters may or may not be bigger, but are typically much more feminine presenting. You will sometimes see it applied more to small, hairy men, but that goes back to slang being variable by default.

Now, to complicate matters, there are also cubs. Cubs are just young bears. This means that they may well be smaller and less hairy than most bears, and will get lumped in with otters despite otters being feminine presenting as the standard usage of the term.

I feel like one of those characters in a movie who is lowborn and some friend brings them to a high society ball or something and is explaining all the nuances.

The comparison between a ball like that and a drag club isn’t unrealistic.

You have queens and their hangers on at the top of the social ladder, all these factions warring for space on the dance floor (territory), you’ve got gossip and affairs, there’s courtiers vying to woo the “maidens”, there’s music and dancing.

Then you had me and my fellow guardsmen keeping the peace and dealing with the envoys from other nations (the silly groups of women coming in to giggle with the gays), and the too frequent war raids of the enemy (bigots).

But, back in the office was the wily King, managing his lands and expanding them as much as possible to increase prosperity (mostly his, but it did actually trickle down, he was a great king. . . er, boss).

Newcomers to high drag society often needed a guide, lest they offend the wrong queen and be dragged out of the palace by a guardsman. Or, you know, end up with a stiletto stuck in them. Usually a shoe, but some of the queens carried the other kind too; a lady has to protect herself from the rabble.

Skinny hairy dudes.