RistrettoMikeSep 21, 2024
Nilay Patel
Absolute war waged on the shadows but notice how too-aggressive default HDR takes the highlights of the neon sign down to zero impact as well - no highs, no lows. All modern smartphone cameras do this now, the Xanax of photography

RE: https://www.threads.net/@withgeorgy/post/DALPMWauXKM
Georgy Romelashvili (@withgeorgy) on Threads

iPhone 16 Pro Max (2024) vs iPhone 3GS (2009) photography. What do you notice? Both unedited. I personally like the 37mm focal length of an old iPhone.

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Sep 21, 2024 at 2:10pmWeb
Show threadSebastiaan de WithSep 21, 2024
Clipping the range is data loss. Once you understand that to be theit truth, it begins to make sense. And I kind of get it - you can turn image 2 into 1 in these but not vice versa.
Show threadNilay PatelSep 21, 2024
I’ve been wondering if the answer is just “printing” a photo that looks good with all the data that lets you got from 1 to 2 - the new styles would let you do it
Show threadSam ByfordSep 21, 2024
i long thought this re: smart HDR but it only makes sense if you're expecting users to edit their images. apple has the best mobile workflow for RAW processing but by far the worst default jpegs. how many iphone users are really adding contrast to their shadows and restoring tone to faces in post?
Show threadDavid ImelSep 21, 2024
I would love if you could adjust highlight clipping/bloom in the pro settings so it still preserves data but uses more of the longer exposure times in the HDR pipeline for highlights
Show threadTravis PettijohnSep 21, 2024
HDR == Xanax 😂 Stealing that!
Show threadSam ByfordSep 21, 2024
all modern smartphone cameras in the US! xiaomi and oppo shoot tasteful jpegs right out of the box. apple (and google and samsung) just fell down a computational rabbit hole
Show threadNilay PatelSep 21, 2024
Oh? With Apple in particular there’s always the semi-unstated notion that they’re chasing the processing tastes of the Chinese market
Show threadSam ByfordSep 21, 2024
the first thing any xiaomi phone makes you do when you open the camera is choose between "leica authentic" and "leica vibrant". the former is muted colours, dark shadows, blown out highlights, slight vignette; the latter is fairly muted colours but still with smartphone HDR stuff. you can flip between them with a button on the main camera screen whenever. personally i love authentic

oppo has a "master mode" on the main screen that's similar but a little more customisable
Show threadNilay PatelSep 21, 2024
Emailed you lol
Show threadDavid ImelSep 21, 2024
I have been so consistently frustrated at the inability to comfortably use some of the Chinese models in the US (due to bands, UI being only in Chinese or just.. bad, etc) because the camera situation over there is sooooo much more geared towards artistic photos vs ALL THE INFORMATION
Show threadDale PriceSep 21, 2024
@reckless1280 Threads stripped the HDR metadata and is displaying these in SDR, isn’t it? Would explain why the neon sign looks like that
Show threadMark Emer AndersonSep 21, 2024
Yeah digital images have always had this HDR problem, we really need better post processing settings on the phone to fix it.
Show threadNilay PatelSep 21, 2024
Well no, it started with the Pixel 2 and iPhone XS
Show threadMark Emer AndersonSep 21, 2024
Sure - but the issue is inherent to digital sensors, they collect all the light they can across the full range and the better they get the worse it gets. Now that the sensors are super good in smartphones, we need to introduce something like the "ISO setting" from DSLR and mirrorless gear. Although I think the real problem is, people want this shadow less and soulless stuff, or they think they do.
Show threadMichael KnepprathSep 22, 2024
queue the “apple fakes moon photos” conspiracy