101Project for people leaving Google Maps.
maniacalmanicmaniaAside from saving places what else can you do with google maps that can be exported?
gon [he]oh this is amazing
Sunshine (she/her)Openstreetmaps has 8.75% of the contributors Google Maps has.
Organic Maps has 1% the user base Google Maps has.
unexposedhazardAnd its still better :)
asbestosSo we work harder
I just did 30 minutes of contributing to the osm database.
internet explorer, yahoo mail, myspace, icq… things change. unfortunately it’s mostly due to a huge company having the resources to promote their product to convince people to migrate but still. people can leave old giants.
pietervdvnYeah, and Wikipedia, linux,… have become important as well, without big corpo
Proton is 5.5% the size of G-mail. 100m vs 1.8b.
i think proton is getting shittified as well but you should make a post listing all these alternatives for different services, rather than peppering them in the comments.
Proton isn’t getting worse arguably though the current services need more work like the calendar.
The same can be said about Lemmy and Reddit, but look where we are.
We need to support open-source projects and stop being simps for bad companies like Google.
Agreed! I got one for that too:
Lemmy vs Reddit
Monthly Users (0.004%) 44k vs 1.2b
1 billion users on reddit is not realistic
With 700 million bots conducting marketing and psychological warfare ops it is!
I mean in visitors.
The difficulty is asking people to get started with this. People want to get to work/navigate as quickly as possible to where they need to be, they don’t want to be figuring it out. Social media can be janky and you’ll be patient, but if you’re late for something because you’re struggling to adjust to an app you’re more likely to go back to Google/Apple Maps
So? Every platform starts at 0%.
I think the point is 8× more contributions
This is very ironic coming from someone using Lemmy.
Im confused.
Lemmy is getting most of its contributions from people that migrated from Reddit. Reddit had (and has) tons of more content people still came here looking for a better alternative.
Hopefully you can now see the similarity.
I see the similarity, what do you mean by irony though?
Its good to know how you measure up against the big corpos.
Openstreetmap is better than Google where I live (Anatolian side of Istanbul).
Take a definition of ACTIVE contributors, because both projects have a lot of inactive contributors that only registered and didn’t do anything but just one update and left, if any.
Google is known for dropping projects that they can’t monetize enough. Maps’ been around for a while, but it can always just disappear for public use. Or decide that you need a Google account too use it and that’s a privacy nightmare. We need alternatives, but in this case, we need free and open source alternatives. We can’t put all the eggs in the same basket.
RimuOrganic Maps was put back onto the Play Store the next day day: https://organicmaps.app/news/2024-08-18/good-news-organic-maps-appeared-again-in-the-google-play-store/
Yeah but it demonstrates googles unwillingness to cooperate and give fair warnings.
All of you are invited on [email protected]
Also checkout the many editing tools, such as mapcomplete.org, htpps://streetcomplete.app,…
Thank you for sharing the links!
exuI successfully used Every Door during my holidays to contribute
There’s a small learning curve I wish some bothered to understand first. Does this app help? The part of this I don’t like is vacationers leaving useless names like ‘Mango lady’, ‘many street vendors’ for a block, or ‘local restaurant’ since they can’t read the sign as opposed marking up the cuisine type, maybe adding an English description, & leaving the name blank. Nobody expects uploads to be perfect but Bangkok is littered with this noise that makes it hard to follow or find things.
It takes effort and knowledge to make good contributions, this app is just a tool to do that.
I can only say I myself try to make valuable contributions, some other people might care less.
I think EveryDoor requires some relatively deep understanding of OSM before actually being a useful tool. So edits like this should be rare with that tool. Many of the edits like this are from when MapsMe was very popular and suddenly introduced editing, without enough nuance in the process.
Bad edits do happen everywhere, you need a good balance between people who data curation and newbies making beginner mistakes. In some places, there’s a lack of experienced people maintaining the data.
Every Door
thank you for sharing, definitely the easiest for Android from my research :-) Note: there is a comparison of editor apps here: wiki.openstreetmap.org/…/Comparison_of_editors
CrabhandsOddly, this is not showing up in my fdroid search
ColdWaterCan OM accept GM link?
This page lists all links that OM is supposed to open, including GM.
You seem pretty active with OSM, so I’ll propose this here since I don’t have time to make it.
OSM is very, very popular with hikers and cyclists, and I’d argue rhey drive a lot of it’s use, especially via third-party systems. However, it’s one failing is “gravel” roads. While they support many different gravel road types, they admit on their Wiki that use of the proper terms is low.
Given the heavy use of Garmin devices, especially among gravel cyclists, mountain bikers, and bikepackers, where terrain definition is important, it would be outstanding to have an app in the Garmin store for Edge devices that could report the exact terrain type (compacted, dirt, etc) with a button mash as you ride it.
HumanPenguinI will add as a narrowboater.
I found towpaths also have this issue with definition of surface.
I am legally blind. (Some vision but bad)
I have a few times tried to add more ditail to areas of towpath that will help the others like me know what to expect before mooring.
Seems anything that improves this will help in your issues as well.
Check out StreetComplete (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.westnordost.streetcomplete)
It does more than just road surface type, and incorporates location-based OSM editing in a very user-friendly way!
Yea, I’ve used that, but it’s a phone app. Riders need a one-touch solution on Garmin (or other bike computers, but Garmin dominates the market right now).
Sir_KevinIt also doesn’t seem to let you edit anything more then a mile away from your physical location. I get that they want accuracy but it’s preventing me from editing incorrect information to a place I have just been.
ctagYou can! Browse to the location, and then click menu button > “Download data here” and the questions will appear.
I already uninstalled it so can’t confirm but I didn’t see anything to that effect at the time. I could be wrong.
That said, I got Every Door and love it. It’s got an icon right on the main screen to download whatever area you’re looking at. The UI in general is more to my liking as a geek, whereas Street Complete sorta makes a game out of it (which is awesome if that’s what you’re after).
F-Droid link: StreetComplete (OpenStreetMap surveyor app)
f-droid.org/…/de.westnordost.streetcomplete/
Not sure if you’re the one to ask, but are there any good alternatives to Strava built on OSM? I don’t need all the fitness analysis and social features, I just want to track my walk route and get basic info like miles traveled, elevation change, average speed, etc
So for the tracking and planning part, you could use OSMAnd. It’s UI is a bit confusing but it does work welll. My typical setup is:
- Plan route in OSMAnd
- Record route with a garmin
- Upload GPX to self-hosted Fittrackee or Wanderer
However you may be asking for something more like RideWithGPS.com?
These posts are motivating
Right?
People doing things like this is hella faith-in-humanity-restoring.
People doing things like this is hella faith-in-humanity-restoring.
Google maps is the last vestige of Google that I use. I was never a Google search user and I only use Gmail for ‘official’ stuff.
So yeah, I want this to work.
I left GoogleMaps a while ago, it worked fine for me. The only part of Google I can’t leave is Play Store. Aurora might be the best alternative there.
OrganicMaps is amazing. Strong recommend to everyone. I only recently found out about it.
PigeonEnjoyerSame, I have recently installed LineageOS on my phone and was looking for various replacements for Goggle apps. What I really like about OrganicMaps is that it downloads the maps locally, so you can view it even if you aren’t connected to the internet.
google maps can do that too though
The feature looks made ugly on purpose though (compared to organic maps where you can just download the whole country or select more precisely what you want)
Thanks, I wasn’t aware of that. I should have really had this information a year ago when I was constantly screenshotting Google Maps, LOL.
InsertUserIIRC At one point Google Maps would let you download a map for browsing, but you couldn't do offline navigation. Don't know if that's still the case.
Organic Maps does the routing on the device.
it’s had offline navigation for years now
@yetiftw for routes that don't start with an internet connection? Or just ones where you lose connection part way there?
Edit: Just tried it and it looks like it Google will now do offline navigation for Car, but not public transport or pedestrian and offline mode hides the cycling 'tab' completely in the directions interface.