return2ozmaJust a reminder...
ApyteleFriendly reminder to people in similar positions that the fact I barely make a living wage as a nurse doesn’t mean the techs with less education than me that I supervise shouldn’t. In fact, if they’re making a living wage, that leaves room for me to advocate to make even more myself. This fight is about us taking from the rich, not from each other, and I refuse to let them control the narrative like that.
NovaPrimeThis fight is about us taking from the rich, not from each other.
Beautiful stated, cutting right to the heart of the matter.
dohpaz42It should also be said that just because I already paid my student loans off doesn’t mean I don’t want other people to be in debt. Student loan forgiveness needs to be up there with the livable wage.
Yaaas. Let’s uplift each other people! Your fellow workers are NOT the enemy!
metaStaticdoes your student debt accrue interest?
TeddEProbably not after it was paid off
There are two types of loans: subsidized and subsidized. The subsidized loans do not accrue any interest, as the fed pays that for you. Unsubsidized loans do accrue interest; typically a lower rate than regular loans (mine were 6%). Student loans cannot be discharged through bankruptcy.
catloafThat is not correct. Subsidized loans accrue interest, but only starting six months after graduation or when you drop below half-time enrollment.
And the rate is the same for subsidized and unsubsidized, currently 6.53%. studentaid.gov/understand-aid/…/interest-rates
My loans were over 20 years old. Things have changed since then.
There are two types of loans: subsidized and subsidized.
🤔 (lol)
SabataYes, enough where its possible to have your student debt die after you.
There’s some double negation confusion at work here, but I think you wrote that you do want other people to be in debt ;)
Yes. You’re right. Thankfully it seems everyone understands what I meant though. 😊
Student loan forgiveness is regressive by definition (those lucky enough to go to college are a minority that earns on average $0.5 to $1 million more over their lifetimes, than those who don’t), aren’t you against wealth transfers from poorer to richer?
If the goal is free education then yes, there has to be a cutoff somewhere
Sterile_TechniqueTech here!
/hug!!
tbh I might not have bothered getting licensed if not for the pay (and getting ditched out on the unit w/ violent pts & no meds or restraints).
Ever considered OR? I’m a surgical tech now but in nursing school, plan is to just switch over to the dark but stay at the same hospital.
One patient at a time. No crazy family members. It’s chill as fuck behind that red line!
Thank you for the work that you do, and every person working in a hospital today ❤️
1984They want us fighting eachother, strong move to realize that and put the blame where it belongs.
SciaphobiaIt isn’t about taking from the rich either. It’s about letting THEM take less, so there’s more for everyone else. Slight distinction, but they are the ones taking, not the workers.
All by design
If you want the meat robot to work for you, you need to pay the upkeep for the meat robot.
That includes power (food), repairs (health insurance) and upgrades (education).
If you can’t afford that, you can’t afford to have a meat robot on your staff.
I wonder what will happen when steel robots take our jobs
More time for revolution
beanThose things still apply to robots too.
Robots able to do physical labor are complex. In the incredibly immense supply chain required to built them it will be possible to sabotage multiple sections.
Alse electronics can be hurt in ways that biology is immune. Mostly electromagnetic warfare, like signal jammers etc.
I prefer not using violence. However, if the owner class is unable to care for the rest of us, we will have to take matters into our own hands.
TheDemonBuerThe cost of living will just keep going up because inflation is necessary in our current, debt based monetary system. The Fed tries to keep this under control by not allowing the rate of inflation to go much beyond about 2% a year. The recent inflation issue we’ve been having wasn’t about inflation suddenly happening where it hadn’t been happening before, it was about the rate of inflation increasing beyond the Fed’s 2% target. When they talk about inflation getting back under control, they’re talking about the rate of inflation getting back to near 2%. But make no mistake: prices are still going up - they have to, that’s how the system works - and they will keep going up every year, seemingly indefinitely. For this reason, a cost of living raise equal to at least the rate of inflation is absolutely essential, otherwise workers are getting a pay cut.
But this is further complicated by the fact that the core inflation numbers are very broad. Housing costs are exploding. Core inflation would be much lower if not for rising housing costs. But the way housing costs increases are measured is by averaging housing costs across all markets, meaning the cost of housing in low demand areas is averaged with the cost of housing in high demand areas. This means that if you live in a high demand area, the core inflation rate doesn’t necessarily capture the true cost of living in your area, and that the cost of living in your area is going up much faster than the national average. Therefore, many workers need an annual cost of living increase that is much greater than the national inflation rate.
As far as I know, there is no national law requiring companies to give cost of living raises every year. Many companies do, but many don’t. A mandatory, annual cost of living raise is something that unions can negotiate, once again showing the value of unions.
The cost of living will just keep going up because inflation is necessary in our current, debt based monetary system.
You’re making this sound like it’s something that was arbitrarily decided by powers that be, but the fact is that if there was deflation instead, the economy would come to a screeching halt, because it becomes more ‘optimal’ to hold onto cash under a mattress (since in deflation, it grows in value over time) instead of spending it on goods and services.
A tiny amount of inflation is best long-term, for the whole.
I don’t think the decisions that led to our current monetary system were made arbitrarily, not at all.
Yeah the gold standard is disastrous for wage laborers, we had a huge fight over this for basically the entire time between reconstruction and the world wars
NutWrenchMinimum wage should have been $15/hr at least 10 years ago.
I remember growing up in the 90’s and being acutely aware of the growing minimum wage. I knew no matter what that when I was able to get a job I would be guaranteed “this” amount and always thought about prices and how long I had to work to get something I wanted when I was an adult. Every small bump made it a little mini-celebration like I was getting a future raise that would allow me to have a better life.
Now? Shake and bake costs over 5$, I have to literally work over an hour to buy half a cup of “convenient” seasoned bread crumbs. I could buy the flour, make the bread, and process it to make my own… but now I’m out of time in the day to work enough to actually afford the meat or any other side item. Oh yeah, and at some point I should pay my bills and save for retirement -_-
Buy bread chop it up season and put in the oven at a low temp till it’s as dry as you want
So now I’m out the cost of materials AND the time to make it AND the cost of running the oven. That’s probably a net loss compared to just buying the breadcrumbs. And the breadcrumbs are still overpriced.
psychOdelic she/herWhile i share your sentiment, you still missed the point.
Way to miss the fucking point… 🙄
Cheaper than buying pre made and you don’t have to make bread, 10 min of work
Way to miss the fucking point… 🙄
You’re obviously lazy and willing to wast money on premade shit that is now expensive and terrible for your health
Dude, you keep missing the point. Instead of stubbornly arguing the same thing, maybe reread and spend some time thinking and trying to understand the conversation you’re participating in so you don’t look so foolish.
Oh I getbthe point, KD usednto be 25c a box now is $3
But that’s what you get for “convenience”
How much did the min wage increase over that time period?
If you get the point you’re just being a bad actor.
How about a maximum wage, minimum wages don’t address the issue of income equality.
Y’all are just trying to climb the shit ladder hung in front of yall
It’s ok. They stopped eating avocado toast. You can calm down now.
That’s not my issue, bitching about a problem that is not the actual problem. Real issue is the top executives pay.
Why ya think Eron Musky and Bozos are against unions?
Why ya think Eron Musky and Bozos are against unions?
ok wait, your goal is income equality and you don’t believe too low of a minimum wage is a problem but only maximum wage should be a focus? I’m just trying to understand this ideology. You seem to disfavor the rich in your comments, so you don’t believe in wealth hording but you might believe their message of “pull yourself up by the bootstraps?” I can see it, just not understanding what you’re getting at completely.
Too High of minimum wage with population increases exponentially increases inflation.
Targeting the root issue will fix the problem. Putting a bandaid on a bullet wound won’t do fuck all.
No it is not an instant solution, nothing is unfortunately
I did hear a segment yesterday (I think npr) on the radio talking about the “Gold standard” which was used in the 18th century with a more stable system that I think you’d be interested in.
I can’t condone or support your suggestion because I believe inflation has more contributing factors than just minimum wage hikes and population increases (such things as greed, climate change cost impacts, etc). Your statement might be valid if prices were regulated and investigated for the causes of any type of increase.
I also believe companies and owners will NOT provide adequate compensation for the work/profit being performed. A stable regulation system where companies are only able to “fee” out the cost of running the company (and slight profit %) but the rest is given to the worker for his productivity might pan out. But, at the moment, companies can and will only give the lowest amount they can get away with. If you lower that amount they will happily comply (look at how delivery drivers got screwed over with hourly wages being diminished).
Yep gold standard was good till Nixon fucked it all. France didn’t want USD anymore and wanted to exchange it.
America ended up stealing from any country held USD when this happened and America profitied big time
Yes there are more factors but wages are directly tied. And when you have people at the top syphoning off the profits of 10-50 people that is where the real damage begins.
That person now is able to dodge taxes, move money to offshore accounts they go to different countries to buy yahats, properties, etc
Also, in Canada we have nationalized electricity production. We get lifers and after 30-40 years these people are doing less work and getting paid more and every year they get wage increases.
Also the more you make the less if an increase you need to survive off
How much has CEO wages increased over that time period?
Maximum wage over higher minimum’s to address income inequality
You don’t see a tie between the two?
Also curious why you replied twice with the same statement?
Another commenter here: the double reply thing was likely an app bugging on sending a reply.
Increasing minimum wages greatly increases inflation. Over paid CEO’s exponentially increases inflation.
Addressing actual issues will solve problems.
Increasing minimum’s will always end up hurting the poorest as when minimums go up so do the costs of everything.
Take a bike made in China vs a bike made in America. They will be about the same quality yet the American one WILL be 2x more because they are paying a lot more per worker.
Yes I know there are more nuances but in general how shot works. If you are no longer paying a CEO the wage of 10-50 workers that money can be now used to drive down the price of your products or pay your workers a proper wage
Yeah, we understand you, stop repeating yourself and try to understand us.
When they’re so stupid you can just keep copy pasting your reply lmfao. This is rich
At some point, it’s best to just reply “you’re an idiot” until they go away.
You know, it’s comments like this that make me laugh and realize how much of a privileged life someone has. Anyone saying, “Oh, it only takes 10 mins to make bread crumbs!”, has never actually been required to make all of their food homemade. Let’s take a journey and use a generic recipe.
- bake at 275 degrees until dry, about 10-to-15 minutes
ok so maybe 15 mins, preheat oven, getting it all ready, maybe like 30 mins but very relaxed. Lowest priced loaf of bread is $1.39 at a local grocer (it’s a horrible brand that’s more airpockets and made from the cheapest ingredients possible but it’s still counts as bread).
- Add them to the food processor, and process them until coarsely crumbed.
Oh shit, now I need a food processor (cheapest is 40 on amazon and walmart), or I could stand at a blender for 2 hours doing one handfull at a time (if I have a blender). Wait, wasn’t this only suppose to take 10 mins?
Ok let’s just chop the bread by hand, now we’re about an hour into the process after it cools and is chopped. But I wanted shake n’ bake, so let’s head over to this recipe.
- Mix all ingredients in a large bowl until evenly mixed and the bread crumbs are no longer ‘clumpy’ from the oil. Let’s see here, Vegetable oil ($2.99), Salt ($0.79), Dried onion flakes ($2.19), Paprika ($1.29), Sugar ($3.19), Garlic powder ($1.29), Ground black Pepper ($2.29), Cayenne ($2.49), Parsley ($2.19), Basil ($2.59), Oregano ($2.49). (all cheapest prices listed from local grocer, nothing premium)
So now we’re at over 25$ for the homemade shake and bake ingredients. 65$ if I want a food processor to keep this under an hour. Oh yeah, I hope I have foil, baking sheets, sanitary plastic bags to “shake” it, a long term storage container for the amount I’m making. I’m over $100 as a fresh person starting life to make bread crumbs. 2 hours between prep and time spent getting ingredients… and I have bread crumbs, guess I’ll start actually cooking the meal! You can make excuses for people that already have some of the required items, but generically you can’t make that statement unless they’re privileged and have hand me downs or time to bargain shop for cheaper appliances. It all costs in the long run and with homemade you’re paying with your time that no one has.
The whole point of the shake and bake was a convenience for overworked families trying to continue to participate in society in a “healthy” way. If you can’t afford “convenience” as a worker, then you’re not getting paid enough.
Maple EngineerThere should be no profits, no bonuses, and no dividends until every worker (not employee, it doesn’t matter what your relationship with the company is if they benefit from your labour) is making at least a living wage with full benefits. Executive pay should be capped at a multiple of the pay of the lowest paid worker or of the average pay paid to all workers. whichever is lower.