Supporting evidence for the 3 downvotes ATM:

Putin’s Shill Stein wants Nato disbanded, the US to give up their SC veto, and revoke weapons to help Ukraine defend itself while simultaneously forcing ‘peace’ (subjugation) negotiations with russia.

2015 Stein breaking bread with Putin, his senior staff, and Mike Flynn (later Trump’s national security advisor

More context:

• Emir Kusturica is a propagandist filmmaker quoted as saying “if I was Russian I would vote for him”. He also supports Russian annexation of Crimea.
• Willy Wimmer was a Right-wing German politician who in his retirement has effectively become a far-right conspiracy theorist that regularly posts to the Epoch Times.

For those that don’t understand how the Electoral College + FPTP voting works, voting for her means helping donald become president due to the spoiler effect.

A spoiler is something that only exists in the mind of Liberals

Math. You’re disagreeing with math. Or are completely unaware of how FPTP voting works (I know this isn’t the case).

I don’t care about the reasoning you make for your actions. We’re talking about the results of those actions.

You will affect the race in one of two ways regardless of what you do. You will either benefit Party A or Party B, those parties being the two largest parties, aka Democrats and Republicans. Non votes and 3rd party votes benefit the smaller party, which is the GOP. This is an absolute fact within a FPTP system, even if you can’t accept it because of the obvious implications.

If you feel the GOP has done more to earn your support, that’s your call. I just think that’s some next level dumbassery.

Non/3rd party votes make it easier for the SMALLER party to win, and that happens to be the GOP here. This is just how FPTP voting works.

There are two possible outcomes, how could your actions not benefit one of the two possible winners?

I get that it feels icky, especially when someone views voting as a way to send a message or present their own moral views, but that’s not what voting is. Not in the general election at least.

I will take responsibility for enabling one of the two genocide enablers that I can choose from, yes. I am choosing to enable the one that contains a modicum of dissention from the status quo vs the one that wants to wipe Gaza from the map entirely.

Why would you want to enable the party that wants even more genocide than the Democrats do?

You’re still ignoring the realities of FPTP voting. There is precisely one way to effectively “vote against” the GOP during the general election and you seem to be advocating against it.

Explain to me how Gaza gets better if Trump wins. Or literally any issue. Even if the loss magically created a huge shift in the Democratic leadership that echoed throughout the caucus and they go all in on every progressive policy we could possibly want. Let’s say they make Rashida Tlaib minority leader. Let’s say every single Democrat now supports a full embargo of Israel until they cease all hostilities. Lets say every Democrat now supports whatever policy you want. How does any of that help once the government is fully controlled by fascists that will literally make it impossible for the now Super Progressive Democratic Party to ever get back in power and do those things?

If your justification for supporting the GOP is that the Democrats haven’t done enough on Gaza that’s fine. I just question the logic.

your justification for supporting the GOP

i’m not supporting the gop. you’re lying.

It’s a pretty simple concept and the only response is usually “not uh!”

Just so everyone else is aware, we’re now here.

Calling me out would suggest you’ve provided some evidence that I’m lying, despite just having my reasoning clearly laid out. Reasoning that you’ve provided no alternative to outside of “you’re lying”.

So where’s this call out? Explain to us how there aren’t 2 possible winners of the election in our FPTP system.

We’re going back to “Not Uh!”