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Does this also apply to say, smartphones?
There’s quite a chasm between a $100 million boat and a $100 device…

Somehow, all these pleas on behalf of the downtrodden never include us actually making any sacrifices or change, just the rich.

Weird how it’s easy to agitate for change when it involves zero sacrifice on your part.

That’s bullshit. Same argument corporations try to push on us about climate change. Fish rots from the head down. Obviously there will be sacrifices we have to make. But to preach “what will YOU be giving up, huh??” When megacorps and gazillionaires hoard literal mountains of wealth to the detriment of the world and all other while they purposely stand in the way of any progress or change that might affect their bottom line? Bootlicking at worst, misguided liberal soapbox bullshit at best.

Lol, I love “bootlicking” on Lemmy, as far as I can tell it’s used the same way trump uses rigged, that is to say “I don’t like it!”

I mean, on climate change, farming is one of the biggest contributors and as fat as the fat cats are, the 333 million non billionaire Americans eat a boatload more beef than the 750ish billionaires. Meanwhile, in terms of say, children losing their limbs mining the cobalt for our phones, the 333 million are way more responsible. Same story for sweatshops. Same for air travel, oil consumption etc.

But man, actual change on our part would be hard. Way easier to rail about billionaires online and feel snugly superior rather than actually doing the work.

farming is one of the biggest contributors

all of agriculture makes up about 20% of our ghg emissions.

Which is pretty huge and mostly discretionary.
we need to eat. lets dismantle the fucking prisons, banks, and armies first.

We don’t need to eat beef.

And banks have been instrumental in one of the largest rises in human living standards in history so dismantling them seems pretty cruel to those who don’t yet live as well as we do.

And banks have been instrumental in one of the largest rises in human living standards in history so dismantling them seems pretty cruel to those who don’t yet live as well as we do.

i don’t see any reason we can’t help people without banks.

Then you should read about how actual development works.
this is not evidence, it’s handwaving.
You’re the one who wanted to dismantle the banks. Being ignorant of how they enable development isn’t a position worthy of respect.
this, too, is not evidence.
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this is not evidence that people cannot be helped without banks

It’s evidence of banks doing substantial good works.

I’m curious as to what magical mechanism you are advocating for though.

that same bank also impoverishes developing nations with crippling debt.

but you haven’t shown that people can’t help each other without banks

Show me your equivalent non bank and non billionaire based development projects.

Otherwise your position is “dismantle the banks and surely some magical solution that isn’t in practice now will step in!”

Which fair, for a whiny privileged first world kid, makes sense as an attitude. It’s just impressively ignorant, selfish and childish.

when liberals get the bullet, too, I guess you won’t need to worry about how we take care of each other
Still waiting for evidence of this magical development program you insist is totally possible.
I’m waiting for the mods to read their reports

“Mods! This guy made me feel silly for insisting something was possible despite a complete lack of evidence!”

You could uhhhh, just show some smidgen of evidence as proof your privileged rich world position wouldn’t seriously harm the most vulnerable among us…